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Rhodia

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Oh my god you’re right. Looking again, it doesn’t seem as bad as only 2 sleeve lengths per neck size. However the selection has definitely been reduced, mostly to the detriment of longer-armed folks.

What’s strange to me is that our sizes are available in that Green Stripe Poplin, but not in staples such as their university stripe oxfords or lightweight oxfords (which, I would think, are their best-sellers). It would make more sense to stock the less-utilized sizes in their more popular styles, no?

I wouldn’t even mind going to the 34/35 sizing metric… they already kind of do that for their sport shirts, and I find the extra half inch usually disappears in shrinkage anyway. I just don’t want to have to go custom for everything now.
I agree. It really doesn't make sense, especially on the staples (which is most of what they've started stocking for SS24 and what I personally have been watching out for).

SM's shirts at custom prices don't seem to me the same value as their MTO tailoring. And there is a lot of competition in the custom shirt arena.
 

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Looks like the high-rise trouser sizing is different for the newest additions, and the rise is quite a bit lower.

2024

2022-2023

EDIT: MTO form appears to indicate the old higher rise numbers with the new measurements for everything else, so wondering if maybe it's not actually changing.
 
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Looks like the high-rise trouser sizing is different for the newest additions, and the rise is quite a bit lower.

2024

2022-2023

EDIT: MTO form appears to indicate the old higher rise numbers with the new measurements for everything else, so wondering if maybe it's not actually changing.
They don't even look like high-rise on the photos where the model is wearing them, weird. And no khaki color option again...
 

JTrent82

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Looks like the high-rise trouser sizing is different for the newest additions, and the rise is quite a bit lower.

2024

2022-2023

EDIT: MTO form appears to indicate the old higher rise numbers with the new measurements for everything else, so wondering if maybe it's not actually changing.
My size in these two tables has a 1/10 inch difference in front rise- not what I'd call a significant change.
 

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Do we have any guinea pigs who can do a side by side with the new allegedly increased back rise trousers? That's the problem for me, which renders the "high" rise (which really amounts to a mid-ish rise on my frame) mostly untenable, since getting them to sit where the front rise allows necessitates a serious, self-imposed wedgie on the back.

With a proper back rise, the current front rise would be perfectly adequate
 

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Do we have any guinea pigs who can do a side by side with the new allegedly increased back rise trousers? That's the problem for me, which renders the "high" rise (which really amounts to a mid-ish rise on my frame) mostly untenable, since getting them to sit where the front rise allows necessitates a serious, self-imposed wedgie on the back.

With a proper back rise, the current front rise would be perfectly adequate
If I'll have some spare moments over the weekend I'll do a side by side comparison. Let the thread be the judge :)
Can't promise anything but will try.
 

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I ask this from a position of profound ignorance, but have the core suit prices gone up dramatically? I'm seeing $400 minimum, and all DBs at $450? I could have sworn those were clocking in around $300 last season?

Not applicable to me, butttttttt if that's the case, I'm quite nervous to see the pricing on the more menswear leaning, premium stuff.

But, if wrong and that has been the pricing for some time, just yell at me
 

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Anyone here owns a Western shirt? How is it? Want a quick review, can't find anything online!

Have nice evening,

Nacho
 

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