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Thanks for adding that info. The chinos do seem to be very consistent within a "run" (aka season), but meaningfully varied between different runs. I've purchased high-rise chinos from atleast 4 different runs, and it's a craps shoot each time whether to get 35 or 36.

Lesson learned for me: don't get them hemmed if it's your first pair from a run. (It's so tempting tho to get free hemming instead of carting them to a tailor and paying out and additional $15-$20.)
They have allowance in the waist and seat, no?
 

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They have allowance in the waist and seat, no?
They do, but being cotton, usually if you let them out you are left with visible stitch marks.

Additionally, for me, the entire top block (hips/crotch/rise) is a bit small and I'd be better served with a size up, even if I could pull off letting out the waist.
 

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They do, but being cotton, usually if you let them out you are left with visible stitch marks.

Additionally, for me, the entire top block (hips/crotch/rise) is a bit small and I'd be better served with a size up, even if I could pull off letting out the waist.
Gotcha. Oddly enough, I bought the same ones in the navy, and they’re without a doubt my favorite chinos. They fit my waist, but I never really measured. I didn’t really find them to run “small” but who knows. Definitely inconsistent though
 

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I have a bunch of S&M trousers in cotton and cotton/linen blend. I was thinking of giving them a delicate wash instead of dry cleaning. I've had bad results dry cleaning cotton trousers. Not only they shrunk a bit, the fabric became thinner. It seems that the dry cleaning process is too aggressive for these trousers.

Has anyone tried delicate washing S&M cotton or cotton/linen trousers? could you please provide your input?

The trousers aren't stained or anything. I just want to freshen them up before pressing.
 

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I have a bunch of S&M trousers in cotton and cotton/linen blend. I was thinking of giving them a delicate wash instead of dry cleaning. I've had bad results dry cleaning cotton trousers. Not only they shrunk a bit, the fabric became thinner. It seems that the dry cleaning process is too aggressive for these trousers.

Has anyone tried delicate washing S&M cotton or cotton/linen trousers? could you please provide your input?

The trousers aren't stained or anything. I just want to freshen them up before pressing.
What's the blend exactly? I have some cotton/linen trousers and it says to just machine wash cold
 

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I have a bunch of S&M trousers in cotton and cotton/linen blend. I was thinking of giving them a delicate wash instead of dry cleaning. I've had bad results dry cleaning cotton trousers. Not only they shrunk a bit, the fabric became thinner. It seems that the dry cleaning process is too aggressive for these trousers.

Has anyone tried delicate washing S&M cotton or cotton/linen trousers? could you please provide your input?

The trousers aren't stained or anything. I just want to freshen them up before pressing.
You should be fine. I’m guessing there probably isn’t any fusing or anything the waistband, like a dress trouser, so go for it. Just hang dry them and press when they’re damp
 

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You should be fine. I’m guessing there probably isn’t any fusing or anything the waistband, like a dress trouser, so go for it. Just hang dry them and press when they’re damp
I have a bunch of S&M trousers in cotton and cotton/linen blend. I was thinking of giving them a delicate wash instead of dry cleaning. I've had bad results dry cleaning cotton trousers. Not only they shrunk a bit, the fabric became thinner. It seems that the dry cleaning process is too aggressive for these trousers.

Has anyone tried delicate washing S&M cotton or cotton/linen trousers? could you please provide your input?

The trousers aren't stained or anything. I just want to freshen them up before pressing.
You can wash at 20-30C without issues in front loading machines. Don't use high spin, use wool/hand wash cycle if the machine has it. Cotton/linen blend is more likely to shrink if washed at high temp / high spin.

It helps if you fold the trousers to fit into a wash bag before putting them in the washing machine.

And air dry, the dryer is highly likely to ruin the blends.
 

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You should be fine. I’m guessing there probably isn’t any fusing or anything the waistband, like a dress trouser, so go for it. Just hang dry them and press when they’re damp
Actually, they all do have this curtain around the inner waist (I think that's what it's called).
 

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The regular chinos are as well. I messaged Rick on IG and he investigated with me and his team to find out if it was a one off. They were 0.5” off spec or something in the half waist.

The right way that they measure is from inner waistband, button to button hole.

They exchanged for free for me, but I also didn’t hem at my tailor yet.

Just received a CS reply on my issue with smaller fitting high-rise chinos. They advised to measure just as you said: measure along the inner waistband, from button to button hole.

Measuring that way, the waist actually does measure exactly to the spec of 36.8". I replied back, saying basically "fine, I guess my return request is invalid" but did grumble a bit that:
A) The pants are a full inch smaller than two pairs that I have from the previous season
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B) Their website does not say how to measure and this is not the usual way most menswear companies measure. This method seems to get you an extra 3/4" than the usual method of measuring the half waistband (level and taut) then multiplying by 2.

EDIT: CS replied again and granted me an exception to their return policy on finished pants, and are allowing a return for store credit (I have spent a lot of money with them). I'm very satisfied with the help and resolution from their CS team.
 
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You can wash at 20-30C without issues in front loading machines. Don't use high spin, use wool/hand wash cycle if the machine has it. Cotton/linen blend is more likely to shrink if washed at high temp / high spin.

It helps if you fold the trousers to fit into a wash bag before putting them in the washing machine.

And air dry, the dryer is highly likely to ruin the blends.

Thanks for the tips. I think I'll throw one in and see how it goes.
 

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It's 55% cotton 45% linen.
The ones that are 100% cotton are also labeled dry clean only.
Are you sure? All my cotton ones say cold wash, I have those cotton linen ones and mine say cold wash and air dry.
 

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Just received a CS reply on my issue with smaller fitting high-rise chinos. They advised to measure just as you said: measure along the inner waistband, from button to button hole.

Measuring that way, the waist actually does measure exactly to the spec of 36.8". I replied back, saying basically "fine, I guess my return request is invalid" but did grumble a bit that:
A) The pants are a full inch smaller than two pairs that I have from the previous season
&
B) Their website does not say how to measure and this is not the usual way most menswear companies measure. This method seems to get you an extra 3/4" than the usual method of measuring the half waistband (level and taut) then multiplying by 2.
Mine came out smaller than the chart when measuring how CS advised

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No matter what prior to ordering new clothes I measure previous ones and how I feel in them just to double check…
 

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Lost yet another interior waistband button on the latest run of chinos. Pretty sure they're using cotton thread. May do a burn test later. Shame because I really like them otherwise.
 

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Are you sure? All my cotton ones say cold wash, I have those cotton linen ones and mine say cold wash and air dry.

Yes.
This is the label for a pair of 100% quest cotton, I dry cleaned and it shrank a bit, the fabric became thinner.
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This is the label for regular 100% cotton dress trousers. I'm willing to give these a test wash:
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