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Proper Cloth - Official Affiliate Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Seph, Feb 14, 2014.

  1. Seph

    Seph Well-Known Member Affiliate Vendor

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    Hi All,

    We've been watching and learning from styleforum since we started Proper Cloth in 2008. Excited to finally be a sponsor!

    At Proper Cloth, our specialty is men's custom dress shirts. We stock over 200 fabrics from renowned fabric mills such as Thomas Mason, Albini and Canclini. Our website makes it easy for clients to design their own shirts and fine tune their custom sizes.

    We're a small team based in New York and have a showroom in Soho at 481 Broadway.

    We'll be posting updates here and are happy to answer any questions!

    Cheers,
    Seph
     
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  2. jungleroller

    jungleroller Senior member

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    Welcome Seph! I've been pleased with your services and fabrics for over a year now. I don't know how I lasted 10 years in the business world with frustratingly poor fitting off the rack options.

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  3. Seph

    Seph Well-Known Member Affiliate Vendor

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    Thanks jungleroller! That's great to hear!
     
  4. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Welcome guys.

    Cheers,

    Fok.
     
  5. ccallis

    ccallis Senior member

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    Hey guys,
    My name is Chris and I've been working on product and visuals for Proper Cloth for about a year now. Wanted to introduce myself to the thread--happy to answer any product related questions you guys may have. We're always working on building out our designs and have been adding a few new product categories--ties, sterling accessories, tailored clothing (coming soon)--recently, as well.

    I run the blog Men of Habit (www.menofhabit.com) if any of you are familiar with that. Looking forward to getting this thread going!

    Cheers,
    Chris
     
  6. ccallis

    ccallis Senior member

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    Also,
    We've been into popover shirts for a while now, but were never really able to find one that fit the way we liked. We started working on our own custom version months ago, and after a few rounds of design and sampling we finally had our perfect popover.

    Our design has three buttons below the collar, a soft front placket, and a reinforced triangle finish. We designed ours with soft cutaway collars, but they can be made with any collar or cuff options.

    We just launched them today--would love to get some feedback from you guys!

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    You can read a little more about our design inspiration and gets some tips on sizing measurements at the link below...
    http://propercloth.com/popover
     
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  7. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    You are also a kick-ass squash player, if I am not mistaken. Good luck to you.
     
  8. dohare

    dohare Senior member

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    Question:

    Long-time user of moderntailor.com, pretty fed up with the shit-quality, looking to place an order with ProperCloth, the $85 white fabric you guys have.

    My moderntailor measurements are pretty nailed down, had some questions about whether I'm better suited for the traditional or slim forearm? Would sending an email with the circumference of my forearm help? Looking to trim up the bicep from my moderntailor orders (they don't allow for quarter inches now and I'd be happy with a 7.75, instead of 8, 7.50 is too tight)

    Also: any place I can see the various other types of collar types besides the english spread/londoner?
     
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  9. BrittanyPC

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    Hi there!

    Our Classic White pinpoint fabric is a great place to start. If you prefer a wrinkle resistant fabric we have a similar pinpoint at $95 that I think you'll really like.

    Our default style is the slim forearm which has one pleat in the sleeve. Our traditional forearm has two pleats and gives you about an inch more room through the elbow. If you are looking to trim up the bicep area I would suggest narrowing the sleeve width about .25" and going with the slim forearm fit. Please feel free to reach out to me directly at Brittany@propercloth.com and I'd be happy to help you set up a custom size with us :)

    We offer a wide variety of collar styles - cutaways, spreads, button-downs, you name it! You can browse all of our styles in our collar gallery (link below). You can see how each style looks worn with a tie, open and buttoned-up. Please let me know if you have any questions about our styles! I look forward to work with you.

    http://propercloth.com/collar-styles
     
  10. Marc Voorhees

    Marc Voorhees Senior member

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    I have a couple questions that should be simple

    1) Wat do the backs of your shirts look like? Side pleats? Box pleats? plain?

    2) How does mailing you a shirt work? Should I design a shirt first, place the order and then mail it to you? I just want to make sure everything gets done right

    Thank you very much! I am looking forward to trying this out. I am hopeful that your shirts will become a staple in my closet as I wean myself off of my Brooks Brothers shorts I have bought for the past few years...

    Marc
     
  11. ccallis

    ccallis Senior member

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    Hi Marc,

    1) Our default is plain back on our shirts, but you can opt for either side pleats or a center box pleat when you create a size.

    2) Mailing a shirt to replicate for fit is a great way to create your size. Just mail it in with a note that includes your email address and we'll create your size. Once the size is created, you can pick fabric, design details, then place your order.

    Don't hesitate to reach out to contact@propercloth.com if you have any further questions--hope I gave you the answers you were looking for!

    Cheers,
    Chris
     
  12. Marc Voorhees

    Marc Voorhees Senior member

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    Thank you Chris. If i mail you a shirt with side pleats but I would like a shirt with a plain back, will you be able to adjust and do that no problem?

    Again, I am looking forward to working with your company!

    Thank you

    Marc
     
  13. kayhill

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    Funnily enough I've just done a comparative review of a bunch of online MTM shirt makers -- including Proper Cloth -- and the shirt I got from them was that $85 white oxford. You can read the review here.

    Good to see Proper Cloth on Styleforum. Some very good workmanship compared to other makers.
     
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    ccallis Senior member

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    Hi Marc,
    Yes we'll be able to do a shirt with a plain back easily. Just include that in your note and you'll be good to go!
    Cheers,
    Chris
     
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    zinc2162 Senior member

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    Hey Kayhill,
    Many thanks for the great review! Don't forget you have a free alteration to dial in your fit even more. The first shirt looks great, but we're always happy to cut you a new one in an updated fit if there's something you think could be improved.
     
  17. kayhill

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    Thanks. I just might take advantage of that.
     
  18. ccallis

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    Hi Guys,
    Today we launched our Spring '14 neckwear collection. We work with an awesome family-owned factory in Malnate, Italy (just at the base of the Italian Alps) on all of our ties and are really excited to put the new collection live. Everything is 100% made by hand using Italian silks and the printed silk styles feature a hand-sewn slipstich, hand-sewn bar tack, and self-tipped blades.

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    We used a fun, vibrant color story inspired by ocean blues, cobblestone greys, and the weathered orange frescos you'll find in Italian coastal towns. Every tie is 58" long, with prints at 3 1/8" wide and knits at 2.5" wide. All in all, the collection has 6 printed silk ties, 4 knitted silk ties, and 3 linen pocket squares. Ties are all $100 and pocket squares are $50

    You can check out the full collection and read a little more about the construction and influence at http://propercloth.com/italian-neckwear

    Would love to get some feedback from Styleforum on this, as well as if there's anything you guys have been looking for but struggling to find in the neckwear dept.

    Cheers,
    Chris
     
  19. macjedi

    macjedi Senior member

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    ^ Nice offering! Really love the alassio's and silk knits. Wish you able to offer MTM … 58" is too long for me :(
     
  20. thirdman

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    I recently received the second and third shirts I've had made by Proper Cloth. A few thoughts:

    First, the website is generally excellent. Easy to use, good images of the fabrics, etc.

    Second, I used measurements from a shirt that already fits well and they seem to have been followed pretty accurately. I made a few small changes with the second order (mainly to address minor issues with the shirt I had based my measurements on) and now have a good fit. The shoulder slope options are a big help, I haven't used the posture options but they're nice to have available. Very easy to understand how to take and record the measurements thanks to the website (videos, general design, etc.).

    Third, please offer more fabrics. Especially more name brand fabrics. And heavier oxfords. And linens.

    Fourth, please offer the option of unfused collars/cuffs/plackets for all collars (even for an extra charge). Right now some collars get unfused, some get fused. This isn't obvious until you start going through all the collar descriptions. At least make all the button-down collars unfused. I ordered the standard button down collar without realizing that some of the other BDs were unfused, and now I'm realizing how important wrinkles and puckering are to a nice OCBD :)

    Overall, considering the cost I've been very impressed.
     
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