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Proper Cloth - Official Affiliate Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Seph, Feb 14, 2014.

  1. Aieyric

    Aieyric Well-Known Member

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    I'll put in my order as soon as the shipping goes live.
     
  2. ccallis

    ccallis Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys,
    Every 6 weeks or so, we shoot an editorial featuring some of our new fabrics and favorite styles. Last week we launched our Chambers & Worth collection, which was inspired by the architecture of the New York Municipal Building and surrounding courthouses.

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    We dressed up some of our plaid broadcloths from Portugal with our new Spring '14 neckwear collection along with some luxurious 140s 2-ply business stripes. Soft Ivy Button-Downs, Soft Milano Collars, and President Spread Collars continued to be our go-to collars.

    You can check out the full collection at http://propercloth.com/collections/chambers-worth
     
  3. zinc2162

    zinc2162 Well-Known Member

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    I have been eyeing the Wythe Steel Blue Oxford from this collection and seems like it has restocked. Looks like a great fabric for a casual shirt.
     
  4. Sundance

    Sundance Active Member

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    Does anybody have experience (or pics!) with the Soft Ivy collar? Hard to really judge it without seeing it in the wild.
     
  5. Marc Voorhees

    Marc Voorhees Well-Known Member

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    I think that is going to be one of my first three shirts ordered... I am really excited about that collar
     
  6. Sundance

    Sundance Active Member

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    Awesome -- please update the thread when you've got it!
     
  7. Seph

    Seph Well-Known Member

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    Here's a couple shots of the soft ivy button down:

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  8. Sundance

    Sundance Active Member

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    Thanks, Seph. The jacket-and-tie pics are what I'm looking for. Do you have any where the collar buttons aren't undone?
     
  9. katabatic

    katabatic Well-Known Member

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    I've got one with the soft ivy collar, in the Howard Street chambray. It's one of my favorite shirts, although I'd say that the collar is almost *too* soft. When the points are buttoned and the collar's open, worn without a tie, the beautiful roll of the collar tends to flatten a bit. Which, you know, should be expected from a collar with (I assume) no interlining.
     
  10. jungleroller

    jungleroller Well-Known Member

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    That's my concern with this collar. In theory it's nice but I'd like to see a better "roll" from it.
     
  11. Sundance

    Sundance Active Member

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    FWIW, katabatic, PC's site says the Soft Ivy collar has "super soft unfused interlining".
     
  12. Seph

    Seph Well-Known Member

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    Yes - there is an interlining in there - it's very light though.

    The softness/structure of the collar will vary based on the fabric selected for the shirt. Heavier weight fabrics such as oxfords or flannels make for more structured soft-ivy button down collars than lighter weight fabrics.
     
  13. katabatic

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    Yup - the chambray I picked is pretty light. I might try one in one of the heavy oxford cloths next.

    BTW, @Seph I just want to compliment you on the Proper Cloth website - it's by far the easiest to use (and fastest!) of the MTM shirtmaker websites I've tried. Looking forward to the linen options in the future :)
     
  14. jeffreywlai

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    PC's wrinkle resistance fabrics are not equivalent to the "no iron" Brooks Brothers shirts.
     
  15. JKKJ

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    Ay yi yi.
    A few days after I place my order you restock the Wythe Steel Blue Oxford, and now you've introduced a Soft President Spread collar. You're making it very difficult for me....

    A question on button placement: Is there any flexibility on where the first button is located? Or maybe it's the second button down? The one below the collar button. My preference is to have the button placed a little closer to the collar to keep the collar from dropping and flattening when I'm not wearing a tie. Especially on lighter-weight fabrics. I know the choice of placket makes a difference too,
     
  16. ccallis

    ccallis Well-Known Member

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    Jeffreywlai is correct. Our "wrinkle resistant" treatment is just done on the fabric when it is woven. It's a little more subtle and comfortable to wear than if we treated it after the shirt is made, like BB does.

    Hi JKKJ--We're not able to adjust the placement of our first button on the placket. Ours is a little lower than some other shirtmakers, though not uncommon on the market.
     
  17. ccallis

    ccallis Well-Known Member

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    Hey Guys,
    We launched a few new collar options today. A Hidden Button Down, Soft President Spread, and Band Collar. We had a lot of requests for a good Hidden Button Down (below) and think our version stands up really nicely at all times.

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    The Soft President Collar (below) was introduced as an easy-to-wear casual option for those who felt our Soft Milano and Soft President Cutaway were a little too aggressive for their liking. It's the same proportions as our standard President Spread, but definitely comes out a bit small due to the unfused construction.

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    The Band Collar is a nice casual option and is unfused with a light soft lining. It's another collar we had a lot of requests for, so we're happy to finally get it going.

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    We're in the process of developing a crisp, fused version of our Soft Milano right now. Would love to hear if there are any collar you guys wish we had, or are just struggling to find on the market in general...
     
  18. JKKJ

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    Thanks Chris. Just to be clear, my ay yi yi was an "oh great the fabric I wanted is available again and now they have a new collar that I like the look of and now I have to order more shirts" kind of ay yi yi, not a gripe about button placement!
     
  19. Marc Voorhees

    Marc Voorhees Well-Known Member

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    Silly Question,

    As a color blind man, I like the Ecru shirts from Brooks Brothers. Would you say that the Ivory Broadcloth or the Bowery Yellow pinpoint is closer? I am looking for a solid go to dress shirt for browns and tweeds

    Thank you in advance!
     
  20. ccallis

    ccallis Well-Known Member

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    Marc--I'd say that our Bowery Yellow Pinpoint is probably most similar to those. A better tweed pairing than the Ivory Broadcloth, for sure.
     

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