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One has to wondering what out-growing Patek and Lange might entail.
I've had friends who have sold off big collections (Panerai and VC), and each went on to build smaller but more focused collections. The Panerai guy went on to buy VC and Langes, while the VC guy bought a tourbillon from an indy and a few high end VCs. Each seems happier with their smaller collections, as they now really wear all of their watches a lot.Interestingly, I know someone who outgrew Panerai. He used to have thirty-two Panerai watches, but said he'd grow listless wearing one of them that he'd switch out twice or thrice a day. Sold them all off and now has two Pateks and two Langes as part of his weekly rotation. He says "less is more." Acquisition and disposition schedule probably helped along by the fact that he buys and sells watches for a living.
Who knows, perhaps he will outgrow his current stable too. All part of personal evolution, I suppose.
I hear a lot of PAM owners have trouble wearing anything under 44mm after owning one. However, a good friend of mine bought a Panerai several years ago, and has since decided he prefers more average sized watches.I only have 1 and I never wear it anymore - and it's not like I have a lot of other watches. Interestingly, a guy I know in the watch selling biz told me that in his experience many people get so used to the larger size that they can't go back to their smaller watches, warning me that if I got a PAM I might lose interest in my sub.
But to the contrary, a year after geting a Luminor, I got a Mk XV (not only smaller than the PAM, but smaller than the sub too) and I now prefer both of these 'smaller' watches.
[SPAM] While I haven't made any effort to sell it as I still enjoy the look of it, if anyone in Copenhagen is interested in a PAM 177, feel free to drop me a PM. [/SPAM]
As for your haikus... let me share something I've come to realise over the last few months.
I know that I've been less than complementary towards PAM in the past (scathing, actually), so this is going to sound weird - but I think I'm actually starting to get the whole PAM thing.
I was at a friend's place recently, shooting the **** with his dad. This man is a watch collector, with a few rare birds in his collection (anyone here know what a PP "hourglass" is?) and was fortunate to have been most active in collecting when things were still affordable - from the 70s to the early 90s. Bottom line is that he has a very nice watch collection. Anyway, this man's daily beater is, of all things, a PAM - a Radiomir 8 day power reserve to be exact. I was genuinely puzzled. Here was a guy who had all sorts of amazing watches, was able to literally choose from a tray of PPs, and he chooses for his daily wearer... a PAM? So I asked him about it.
He didn't say a word. Instead he took his watch off, and handed it to me. I strapped it on, looked down, and broke into a grin. A big grin. At that moment I realised that PAMs are the watch equivalent of a big juicy burger which just hits the spot and satisfies. Sure I wouldn't mind a gourmet cooked meal, made with finesse and care. But you know what? I couldn't eat that stuff every single day for every single meal. Some people can, more power to them. But sometimes I really do feel like a burger. Not a frou frou burger with an A5 wagyu patty, foie gras and gold leaf, but a honest to goodness burger with the works - 2 slabs of tasty mince, bacon, fried onions, a fried egg, lettuce, slabs of tomato, etc.
So like a burger, their appeal lies in their accessibility. This in turn explains a great deal of their success. There are douches all around us, and God knows lots of these douches choose to wear watches. God knows lots of these douches sport PAMs. But am I going to let the fact that the douche wears a PAM prevent me from recognising their appeal? Wearing one? Hell no. I'm going to wear what I like.
Hmm, I'm hungry now. Off to get a burger...
That seems like it would take something really amazing...although I have to admit I really like Kai's choice of RGM as a response to your question.One has to wondering what out-growing Patek and Lange might entail.
That's stunning!
If one is going to outgrow Patek and Lange, perhaps it is for a one of one bespoke watch. VC offers everything from simply working with you to make a customized version of a current production model to something that starts from scratch, with your limits being merely your bank account.Kai,
Interesting as it is, at the end of the day that's still a production model, and not that crazy a price (especially for you big shots). I think the interesting bit, if we take Mr Murphy as the example, is when you start coming up with your own ideas and specs. Bespoke is where it's at! Today RGM, tomorrow VC...?
VC offers everything from simply working with you to make a customized version of a current production model to something that starts from scratch, with your limits being merely your bank account.
I really like Kai's choice of RGM
If one is going to outgrow Patek and Lange, perhaps it is for a one of one bespoke watch. VC offers everything from simply working with you to make a customized version of a current production model to something that starts from scratch, with your limits being merely your bank account.
Wow you guys go with crazy stuff really...
I'll post my daily one, even though it's never somewhere near any of those you guys show off!
The switchboard operator connects you to a small facility in China where you can get a customized Valchereen Codstandeen. It has decorative chronograph pushers that do not work, but it will fool a few folks on 42 Street. Valchereen usually has an AD selling watches from his trench coat in your nearest subway station.So what if my bank account already precludes me from 90% of the VC production catalog? Do they answer the phone?