SPIER & MACKAY - Official Affiliate Thread

[BlueSteel]

Good comparison of S&M and others: https://www.permanentstyle.com/2023/08/five-good-ready-made-suits-under-1000.html

Thanks for posting this - good read to compare RTW tailoring within this price bracket. Honestly, I feel like S&M stacks up very well against the others based on this article. I have not tried most of the others personally...but have no desire to do so once all the points made in the article are considered.

 

[anonymouz]

Thanks for posting this - good read to compare RTW tailoring within this price bracket. Honestly, I feel like S&M stacks up very well against the others based on this article. I have not tried most of the others personally...but have no desire to do so once all the points made in the article are considered.

Agreed, S&M stacks up well

 

[milktoast]

Got some S&M chinos back from the tailor (had to get them hemmed) and man is it annoying that all my S&M chinos fit differently. The sage pair I just got is tighter in the waist than others, my navy pair is a bit billowy in the thighs, and the khaki ones have a looser waist.
These sizing inconsistencies make it hard for me to justify buying more chinos from them.

 

[Ebichuman]

Got some S&M chinos back from the tailor (had to get them hemmed) and man is it annoying that all my S&M chinos fit differently. The sage pair I just got is tighter in the waist than others, my navy pair is a bit billowy in the thighs, and the khaki ones have a looser waist.
These sizing inconsistencies make it hard for me to justify buying more chinos from them.

All three from the same line? Or maybe different seasons?

 

[sargeinaz]

nice…. hopefully it’s joined by a better fabric selection! seems like mto fabrics are disappearing on the website

Agreed. Hopefully they’re revamping it or something. I wish we could more “summer tweeds”. Living in Phoenix, I’ll never dream of being able to wear actual tweed.

Also, I got the cotton tattersall shirt. Really like it. Love the colors and weight of fabric and collar.

However, I wish it had a box pleat. It plainly says in the description it doesn’t, but I didn’t realize how much I dislike the plain back. I really don’t like how so many of their shirts have clean backs. I would easily buy 3 or 4 of the Italian oxfords if they had a box pleat and chest pocket and other shirts too. Will probably at some point try an MTM Oxford from them to get a box pleat and chest pocket.

 

[1st Step]

Blu Seersucker (dope) Taupe Tie...

 

[DonRaphael]

This includes almost all of the M&E they added at the tail end of FW22- I was surprised and disappointed to see it disappear.

The reason being that M&E has discontinued all it's cut length business. Dugdale picked it up and selling it through its own line, but the price has shot up dramatically. M&E reps are quoting more than double the price now.

 

[TheLawBeard]

The reason being that M&E has discontinued all it's cut length business. Dugdale picked it up and selling it through its own line, but the price has shot up dramatically. M&E reps are quoting more than double the price now.

Yet another reasons they should develop a relationship with Harrisons. The MTO section is looking thin and the current options just aren’t impressive when you include the fact that they won’t source from several of the mills they already use.

 

[DonRaphael]

Yet another reasons they should develop a relationship with Harrisons. The MTO section is looking thin and the current options just aren’t impressive when you include the fact that they won’t source from several of the mills they already use.

First of all, a relationship between S&M and Harrisons would absolutely wreck my financial situation. Secondly, I believe AskOkey owns the exclusive rights to Harrisons cut length business.

With that being said, my understanding is that S&M will buy their own curated group for RTW/MTO. In addition, they can still buy rolls from M&E, which they'll continue doing. But for the individual customer, if S&M hasn't purchased the specific roll of fabric you're interested in, you won't be able acquire it.

That's what I was told by Rick when I inquired about two specific M&E fabrics.

 

[classicoutfits]

First of all, a relationship between S&M and Harrisons would absolutely wreck my financial situation. Secondly, I believe AskOkey owns the exclusive rights to Harrisons cut length business.

With that being said, my understanding is that S&M will buy their own curated group for RTW/MTO. In addition, they can still buy rolls from M&E, which they'll continue doing. But for the individual customer, if S&M hasn't purchased the specific roll of fabric you're interested in, you won't be able acquire it.

That's what I was told by Rick when I inquired about two specific M&E fabrics.

I am hoping for ME or Fox sport jacket this fall. That green one looks awesome

 

[MrFingers]

I am hoping for ME or Fox sport jacket this fall. That green one looks awesome

No fox, I think a couple M&E

 

[sargeinaz]

First of all, a relationship between S&M and Harrisons would absolutely wreck my financial situation. Secondly, I believe AskOkey owns the exclusive rights to Harrisons cut length business.

With that being said, my understanding is that S&M will buy their own curated group for RTW/MTO. In addition, they can still buy rolls from M&E, which they'll continue doing. But for the individual customer, if S&M hasn't purchased the specific roll of fabric you're interested in, you won't be able acquire it.

That's what I was told by Rick when I inquired about two specific M&E fabrics.

I don’t blame you for asking, those are beautiful 😍

 

[pyunghwa]

Good comparison of S&M and others: https://www.permanentstyle.com/2023/08/five-good-ready-made-suits-under-1000.html

Just read the article and sums up the experience really well. Great jackets, and a lot of potential for the trouser, but the u line pattern is where it falls short. It's strange thing because when I compare the size charts of S&M and Natalino, they're almost identical. But Natalino's fit is much much more better.

If S&M updated their U line of their trousers, specifically the high rise, u wouldn't need to go to anyone else.

 

[Rhodia]

Just read the article and sums up the experience really well. Great jackets, and a lot of potential for the trouser, but the u line pattern is where it falls short. It's strange thing because when I compare the size charts of S&M and Natalino, they're almost identical. But Natalino's fit is much much more better.

If S&M updated their U line of their trousers, specifically the high rise, u wouldn't need to go to anyone else.

My thoughts exactly. I can wear Spier sportcoats, but not the trousers. I can wear Natalino trousers, but not the sportcoats (far too slim).

It goes to show the limitations of size charts - Natalino's jackets measure larger than Spier's, but fit entirely different.

Would love to buy full suit from Spier, but it will never happen if the U-rise stays the same.

 

[St1X]

Thanks for posting this - good read to compare RTW tailoring within this price bracket. Honestly, I feel like S&M stacks up very well against the others based on this article. I have not tried most of the others personally...but have no desire to do so once all the points made in the article are considered.

In reality S&M is far behind all other brands. They are pretty solid for entry suits, but when it comes to details they are far behind. Which is understandable at this price point