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Lasttye · May 4, 2012

Looking back the two things that was the highlight for me as a Skinhead was Christmas Eve 1969 at the Tottenham Royal, and Chelsea winning the FA Cup replay at Old Trafford 1970.
Xmas 69 was the pinnacle for London Skinheads, after that it was down hill.

Gary Clifton · May 4, 2012

Hi All, this might sound like i'm taking the piss but i'm not. It really makes me chuckle when i read these posts about Trad skins, sharp skins and whatever other names, I grew up in London in the 60's/70's on a huge council estate and being a skinhead wasn't about what you wore or what music you listened to it was about being a Skinhead! A gang of mates who back each up if there was any aggro. We would wear boots, any boots they didn't have to be DM's, jeans, and a shirt or t-shirt with braces and a jacket or coat. All the crap that every skinhead wore DM's, Ben Shermans, Brutus slimfits, Crombies etc etc etc makes me laugh, eventaully skins became more into the fashion but that wasn't really untill the Suedeheads came about in the early seventies. One more thing i would like to say, Skins from other countries who say there original skins is not right, its like white rasta's it just can't be. Skinheads were working class kids/blokes from Britain who wanted to make a statement against the times we lived in, it was a chance for me and my mates to walk down the street and be noticed. Unless you were about then you wouldn't understand. I don't mean to upset anyone but i wanted to air my views and they are only MY views.

browniecj · May 4, 2012

Ed Vaughan said:
Close... but not quite.
Probably here: http://www.soulbot.com/Top-Ten-Club-Manchester.htm
Not too far from Oldham Road - far enough, though - it was a regular for many folk 'coming down' before work on Monday.
Belle Vue was some place, for its time and was a massive draw for all sorts of people, for all sorts of reasons.
I saw The Who, in the circus Big Top, circa 1973-74 - off my **** on some crud a mate had found in his mother's handbag.
Google: Belle Vue, Manchester - awesome. (In a sad, tacky - yet exciting!!! - mid-20th century sort of way.)
Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_Vue_Zoological_Gardens

Looked quite a Place,Ed.

browniecj · May 4, 2012

Gary Clifton said:
Hi All, this might sound like i'm taking the piss but i'm not. It really makes me chuckle when i read these posts about Trad skins, sharp skins and whatever other names, I grew up in London in the 60's/70's on a huge council estate and being a skinhead wasn't about what you wore or what music you listened to it was about being a Skinhead! A gang of mates who back each up if there was any aggro. We would wear boots, any boots they didn't have to be DM's, jeans, and a shirt or t-shirt with braces and a jacket or coat. All the crap that every skinhead wore DM's, Ben Shermans, Brutus slimfits, Crombies etc etc etc makes me laugh, eventaully skins became more into the fashion but that wasn't really untill the Suedeheads came about in the early seventies. One more thing i would like to say, Skins from other countries who say there original skins is not right, its like white rasta's it just can't be. Skinheads were working class kids/blokes from Britain who wanted to make a statement against the times we lived in, it was a chance for me and my mates to walk down the street and be noticed. Unless you were about then you wouldn't understand. I don't mean to upset anyone but i wanted to air my views and they are only MY views.

Interesting that Gary.I was a Skinhead that did take Pride in his Appearance(I followed on from being a Mod)..You are right about wearing Brutus Shirts,I never wore them-Ben Shermans.

Little Queenie · May 5, 2012

Ed Vaughan said:
Close... but not quite.

Nah, I meant the Top Twenty in Hollinwood. The Top Ten only had nighters 'til '67, so barely coinciding with the Skinhead era. The Top Twenty was where loads of people would go straight from the Wheel:

http://www.manchesterbeat.com/venues/hollinwood/toptwentyhollinwood/toptwenty.php

Ed Vaughan · May 5, 2012

Little Queenie said:
Nah, I meant the Top Twenty in Hollinwood. The Top Ten only had nighters 'til '67, so not during the Skinhead era. The Top Twenty was where loads of people would go straight from the Wheel:
http://www.manchesterbeat.com/venues/hollinwood/toptwentyhollinwood/toptwenty.php

I'd forgotten - if I ever knew - about that one... but Hollinwood may as well have been 'Hollywood' for me. :satisfied:

Wayyyyyyy... out of my (then) comfort zone.

Yankee · May 5, 2012

chickNcoop said:
Hey, I'm in San Francisco too, which club nights have you checked out? Have you been to the Saturday Soul Nights at Elbo Room?

I

Hey, sorry I missed this.
Haven't been to San fran events in a while, but I'm going in a couple of weeks when my semester is over and I get back my weekends.
Are you on Facebook? Message me your username if you like, and be sure to check out the San Fran Vintage Reggae group.

I am going to a show on my island tonight. John Patricks is fun place, let me know if you'll be around. Always nice to get some soul and rocksteady into a punk/oi night.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...886630710.1691.101114746630724&type=1&theater

Pequod · May 5, 2012

Hi everybody!

Here are some new findings from the depths of the internet. O. k., not all pics are from the late sixties - our holy time.

Sources:

http://storage.canalblog.com/51/30/736631/72460391.jpg
http://www.themodgeneration.com/for...th-or?id=3198642:Topic:164135&page=4#comments
http://www.soul-source.co.uk/soulforum/gallery/image/47435-May-1970-Market-Bar-1/
http://www.alasbarricadas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28271&start=195
http://fuckyeahskinheads.tumblr.com/post/306694382
http://subbaculture.co.uk/

The source says that the pic is from 1968.

Ed Vaughan · May 5, 2012

Great finds, Pequod.

Interesting to see that in pic 3, the two lads in jeans, how the jeans were turned up, inside, with no attempt, like today, to hide big, inside turn-ups. (Come on, no one has turn-ups - or 'trouser cuffs, for our 'colonial' chums - like that any more... do they?)

I mean, when we get jeans now, we can buy them in leg lenths - even for fat, little short-arses like me.

Then, back in our olden times, :embar:

IIRC, that wasn't the case... or am I wrong?

Did we (originally) not cut them, maybe imagining we'd grow into the whole length of the legs?

And, of course, if you did grow that wee bit - I never grew much from 15 until now - there was always that tell-tale line (after washing and shrinkage) that wasn't quite 'right' - know what I mean?

As an aside, I watched (again) 'Get Carter' this afternoon. And, when 'Carter' followed a baddie (Bernard Hepton), into a dance hall bogs, the lads stood at the urinals were all dressed very 1970... I wasn't knob-watching, honest. :slayer:

Ed Vaughan · May 5, 2012

So as not to steal Pequod's thunder, on what is a great pictures post... here's the 'Get Carter' scene I mentioned.

Try: 1'-18 - in... that said, the whole element the OP has posted is worth a view, IMHO.

Isn't the 'interweb' - :satisfied:

- wonderful?

browniecj · May 5, 2012

Ed Vaughan said:
So as not to steal Pequod's thunder, on what is a great pictures post... here's the 'Get Carter' scene I mentioned.

Try: 1'-18 - in... that said, the whole element the OP has posted is worth a view, IMHO.
Isn't the 'interweb' - - wonderful?

"Like two pissholes in the snow".Great Film.

Well done,Pequod,at least you have started constructively.

circustavern777 · May 6, 2012

circustavern777 · May 6, 2012

circustavern777 said:

morning all southend late 1970, that was a very nice sheepy my girl had on im wearing dark red harrington and rupert checks the crop had grown out all the best

circustavern777 · May 6, 2012

When i first started out as a skinhead i did not have a ben sherman brutus , or martins i wore a white t shirt rolled up jeans a pair of braces and wait for it plimsols. when you stop laughing about the plimsols i will carry on. Thank goodnes for my old dads black grainy old leather work boots cos they was what i wore next. I used to look at all or most of the other skins wearing ben sherman as colin rightfully said there were no brutus or jaytex then , and i could not wait till i could get one the same with me dms. I aggree with gary it was all about being of one , a crew or firm or gang call it what you like its pretty much the same. I am still great pals with a couple of originals from back in the day . But we all have opinions some the same some different so what i say is if you wanna wear work boots and rolled up jeans ect good luck to ya, and if you wanna wear dms ben sherman or brutus i still think there checks were the best but i am a bit younger than some of the guys then good luck to them as well cos what really matters is we were all SKINHEADS,

circustavern777 · May 6, 2012

Gary Clifton said:
Hi All, this might sound like i'm taking the piss but i'm not. It really makes me chuckle when i read these posts about Trad skins, sharp skins and whatever other names, I grew up in London in the 60's/70's on a huge council estate and being a skinhead wasn't about what you wore or what music you listened to it was about being a Skinhead! A gang of mates who back each up if there was any aggro. We would wear boots, any boots they didn't have to be DM's, jeans, and a shirt or t-shirt with braces and a jacket or coat. All the crap that every skinhead wore DM's, Ben Shermans, Brutus slimfits, Crombies etc etc etc makes me laugh, eventaully skins became more into the fashion but that wasn't really untill the Suedeheads came about in the early seventies. One more thing i would like to say, Skins from other countries who say there original skins is not right, its like white rasta's it just can't be. Skinheads were working class kids/blokes from Britain who wanted to make a statement against the times we lived in, it was a chance for me and my mates to walk down the street and be noticed. Unless you were about then you wouldn't understand. I don't mean to upset anyone but i wanted to air my views and they are only MY views.

very intersting gary what part of the world you from mate. what was the statement you guys were making it will be good to compare with other skins from the same era i am 56 so in 1969 i was 14 im wondering if you may be older as i remember the first wave of skins started with that work look even with the old collarless grandads shirt braces and army greens ect i think the music did matter

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