• Hi, I am the owner and main administrator of Styleforum. If you find the forum useful and fun, please help support it by buying through the posted links on the forum. Our main, very popular sales thread, where the latest and best sales are listed, are posted HERE

    Purchases made through some of our links earns a commission for the forum and allows us to do the work of maintaining and improving it. Finally, thanks for being a part of this community. We realize that there are many choices today on the internet, and we have all of you to thank for making Styleforum the foremost destination for discussions of menswear.
  • This site contains affiliate links for which Styleforum may be compensated.
  • UNIFORM LA CHILLICOTHE WORK JACKET Drop, going on right now.

    Uniform LA's Chillicothe Work Jacket is an elevated take on the classic Detroit Work Jacket. Made of ultra-premium 14-ounce Japanese canvas, it has been meticulously washed and hand distressed to replicate vintage workwear that’s been worn for years, and available in three colors.

    This just dropped today. If you missed out on the preorder, there are some sizes left, but they won't be around for long. Check out the remaining stock here

    Good luck!.

  • STYLE. COMMUNITY. GREAT CLOTHING.

    Bored of counting likes on social networks? At Styleforum, you’ll find rousing discussions that go beyond strings of emojis.

    Click Here to join Styleforum's thousands of style enthusiasts today!

    Styleforum is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. Please support us by using them. You may learn more here.

bsarosi

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2009
Messages
960
Reaction score
735
Oh that’s good to hear it fits you better but I think it will safe to say that 2 mm reduction for instep will be a good idea for all pairs on YSQ or YC3 last to get a tight fit like G&G/EG.

As I understand, and from reviewing the lasts on the Yeossal site, YC3 (which I ordered the Thomson SpTD on) and the SG65 are very similar except for toe shape. Yeossal states YC3 is a softer version of SG65 and a soft square toe vs a chiseled toe for SG65. So I elected to have the 2mm reduction in the instep for the Thomson SpTD because a) the last is similar to the SG65 in which I needed a tongue pad added to fill in the instep space and b) open lacing of derbies tend to fit slightly looser compared to a closed-lacing shoe.

One thing that is interesting is that the YSQ last has a higher instep per the Yeossal website but I found it to be lower than the SG65. Guess it just depends on the shape of ones feet.
 

saurabh

Distinguished Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2014
Messages
2,288
Reaction score
8,995
As I understand, and from reviewing the lasts on the Yeossal site, YC3 (which I ordered the Thomson SpTD on) and the SG65 are very similar except for toe shape. Yeossal states YC3 is a softer version of SG65 and a soft square toe vs a chiseled toe for SG65. So I elected to have the 2mm reduction in the instep for the Thomson SpTD because a) the last is similar to the SG65 in which I needed a tongue pad added to fill in the instep space and b) open lacing of derbies tend to fit slightly looser compared to a closed-lacing shoe.

One thing that is interesting is that the YSQ last has a higher instep per the Yeossal website but I found it to be lower than the SG65. Guess it just depends on the shape of ones feet.

Yes thanks and that explains. Oxford lacing will have lower instep than a derby I believe so maybe that’s why you feel it has a lower instep.
 

vriche

Distinguished Member
Joined
Jan 10, 2013
Messages
1,535
Reaction score
2,497
My Duke on the SG65 in Chelmer museum from the May GMTO. I was concerned about fit since my feet aren’t exactly regular. They fit snug but not uncomfortable. I’m very impressed with them.
2B574D0E-241B-4869-A6F6-8F59148A9B84.jpeg
A6D98D72-B461-4962-A21D-E79C0F575674.jpeg
513D4635-0109-474B-86F5-F406A6422794.jpeg
5526C2E7-D0AE-4E04-89F2-948EBECB7D60.jpeg
1AF26741-9C55-4299-991E-3A4925DCBC4D.jpeg
2825272F-AD33-48AD-9DAA-59DE541FAF78.jpeg
BBC5B878-60E4-498B-AB5B-A61A6F601694.jpeg
1CA458C4-D58A-4BE3-856C-A02DCACE6795.jpeg
C483CF2C-EBD4-4794-AD22-252EB786DD17.jpeg
AC6C55B5-3659-4EAF-A2E7-6F3AE6AD48CE.jpeg
B92970F5-B87B-44EC-857A-9DE38C114ABF.jpeg
 

bsarosi

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2009
Messages
960
Reaction score
735
Inspiration for my GMTO was a pair of balmoral shoes I got from Yim - wanted a dark brown model to go with Yim’s in medium brown. Here are both side by side. Yim’s pair is slightly longer and sleeker. Yim’s sole is sleeker with the more pronounced fiddleback waist. Apologies for the indoor lighting on iPhone.

3A4957F2-8F4D-4A74-A8D1-3771CE1868C2.jpeg


8DF26B80-8125-401C-BC1B-A6BB45C6E4D2.jpeg


80015796-99ED-4D33-86B2-A570A5E4851D.jpeg


7EC6ACAC-A169-4BC8-8A36-48B1291F5387.jpeg


A6BBEC54-D3BB-44C0-B0F6-448BAB65792A.jpeg
 

Form7

Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2020
Messages
21
Reaction score
4
I might be getting an MTO made for Chelsea boots. I can't decide between DR70 or the YRB last, both look similar with the DR70 having a slight steeper dip at the end. Anyone have experience with either? I'm a D width.
 

bsarosi

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2009
Messages
960
Reaction score
735
For those who ordered the Jodphur, looks like someone else copied the Fukuda boot through Wayman Bespoke. Gives you some idea of how they’ll look except pull tabs won’t be at the top of the boot.

 

bsarosi

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2009
Messages
960
Reaction score
735
I might be getting an MTO made for Chelsea boots. I can't decide between DR70 or the YRB last, both look similar with the DR70 having a slight steeper dip at the end. Anyone have experience with either? I'm a D width.

DR70 doesn't appear to have as much of a banana curve as YRB. According to the Yeossal site, DR70 is similar to SG65 (sleek last) except in the toebox where DR70 is rounded versus SG65 being chiseled square. My advice would be to decide based on how much banana curve you want - if your foot is a bit wider at the ball, the more curve may be beneficial whereas a narrower foot would probably work best with DR70 IMO. I had this similar decision for the Oct.Tenth SpTD GMTO and went with the sleeker last based on my foot shape and input from the vendor.
 

Kangnamstyles

Distinguished Member
Joined
Nov 1, 2017
Messages
1,258
Reaction score
6,623
DR70 doesn't appear to have as much of a banana curve as YRB. According to the Yeossal site, DR70 is similar to SG65 (sleek last) except in the toebox where DR70 is rounded versus SG65 being chiseled square. My advice would be to decide based on how much banana curve you want - if your foot is a bit wider at the ball, the more curve may be beneficial whereas a narrower foot would probably work best with DR70 IMO. I had this similar decision for the Oct.Tenth SpTD GMTO and went with the sleeker last based on my foot shape and input from the vendor.

I agree with this assessment. I have the SG65 in regular width and now the YRB in wide width. Based on my width and medium high arch/instep, the SG65 in regular width has been too narrow and too low to wear comfortably. Pinching on the big and pinky toes, and then also on the top of the flex point I will probably try stretching that pair out with some ankle socks wrapped around the front half of the shoe trees.

The YRB in wide width (normal last runs narrow too) is just perfect for me in terms of width and room on the instep area.
 

bsarosi

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2009
Messages
960
Reaction score
735
Alright, still having a dilemma on last for the jodphur boots. I currently own 3 pairs of jodphurs (see pics) - Enzo Bonafe dark brown on 804 (almond toe), Enzo Bonafe burgundy hatch on 74945 (soft chisel toe), and Alfred Sargent in med brown on 724 (square chisel toe).

I’ve decided on the dark brown museum for leather but still unsure of the last. YSQ is what I’m leaning towards as I don’t love the raised toebox of the SG65 for the boots - wish it was less pronounced. YC3 is out as I prefer a sleeker last. So I have it down to YSQ or DR70 and I’m leaning to YSQ because I already have the EB 804 jodphur boots in dark brown so I don’t want them to be too similar. Am I over-thinking this?

F7375A22-4999-4DB7-A860-5468687C30EA.jpeg

99D90F3C-5309-43FB-9A96-D7503450332F.jpeg

3FCF18F8-F95B-4E10-8F47-B8EC6563EA0F.jpeg

0DF3C379-E72A-401B-A0D2-CF601CA3C228.jpeg
 
Last edited:

saurabh

Distinguished Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2014
Messages
2,288
Reaction score
8,995
Alright, still having a dilemma on last for the jodphur boots. I currently own 3 pairs of jodphurs (see pics) - Enzo Bonafe dark brown on 804 (almond toe), Enzo Bonafe burgundy hatch on 74945 (soft chisel toe), and Alfred Sargent in med brown on 724 (square chisel toe).

I’ve decided on the dark brown museum for leather but still unsure of the last. YSQ is what I’m leaning towards as I don’t love the raised toebox of the SG65 for the boots - wish it was less pronounced. YC3 is out as I prefer a sleeker last. So I have it down to YSQ or DR70 and I’m leaning to YSQ because I already have the EB 804 jodphur boots in dark brown so I don’t want them to be too similar. Am I over-thinking this?

View attachment 1433262

View attachment 1433259

View attachment 1433260

View attachment 1433261
Personally I think almond toe or little round look best on the Jodhpur boots. I am also thinking whether I should order the Yeossal jodhpur boot or not. And confused about the color as well.
Just also sharing my G&G Custom Patina MTO with alligator strap. This is the Deco Round Last of G&G.

 

Res

Active Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2020
Messages
41
Reaction score
15
I’ve decided on the dark brown museum for leather but still unsure of the last. YSQ is what I’m leaning towards as I don’t love the raised toebox of the SG65 for the boots - wish it was less pronounced. YC3 is out as I prefer a sleeker last. So I have it down to YSQ or DR70 and I’m leaning to YSQ because I already have the EB 804 jodphur boots in dark brown so I don’t want them to be too similar. Am I over-thinking this?

I think the DR70 would look fantastic on a boot. The YSQ has a higher instep. Do you need the higher instep?
 

bsarosi

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2009
Messages
960
Reaction score
735
I think the DR70 would look fantastic on a boot. The YSQ has a higher instep. Do you need the higher instep?

So I actually found the instep to be lower on my YSQ balmoral that I purchased compared to the Eber model I have on SG65. Despite that, I don’t need a high instep and Yeossal will even adjust the instep for me by 2mm if I so choose (did so for the Thomson I ordered in the CGO). So it’s more about toe shape than anything else. I do agree jodphurs look great with an almond toe but I have the EB jodphur on 804 almond toe in dark brown already...

Wish Yeossal had a square toe last that isn’t raised like SG65 but does slope at the tip like the Fukuda last on the boots. Best way to put it is I want to copy the Fukuda boots without paying the price!!
 

Res

Active Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2020
Messages
41
Reaction score
15

Featured Sponsor

How important is full vs half canvas to you for heavier sport jackets?

  • Definitely full canvas only

    Votes: 97 37.9%
  • Half canvas is fine

    Votes: 93 36.3%
  • Really don't care

    Votes: 29 11.3%
  • Depends on fabric

    Votes: 42 16.4%
  • Depends on price

    Votes: 38 14.8%

Forum statistics

Threads
507,164
Messages
10,594,366
Members
224,375
Latest member
aydenhachigian
Top