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Growing up, I've heard people specifically going to Paris to get the latest fashion items. Nowadays, they might have to go to Asia for the latest releases. Most of my pictures is from Instagram users using #celine, #celinebyhedislimane, or #hedislimane as their hashtags, I wonder if that plays a role in skewing perceptions of which market is most engaged in Celine. I do know it skews towards Japanese and maybe Korean fans. I've also searched for #셀린느 (Korean translation for Celine), but I find it mostly just featuring the bags. I feel like a lot of Chinese fans are on Weibo but I don't know how to use it.
I don't know if I'm imaging it or not, but I felt like there was a lot more North American engagement with Hedi's Saint Laurent on Instagram. Even beyond Instagram, there was engagement on Reddit and they would make a guide to talk about the "SLP Aesthetic". I always felt that it was heavily fw13 that was what people associated Hedi's Saint Laurent with. It was the first official men's show, so I think that played a role in cementing in people's mind what Hedi's Saint Laurent is about. It also came at a time when grunge was really popular. I also feel like the general impression of the Saint Laurent boy is a stereotypical bad boy. I think there is a large market of people who want to feel cool and badass in their clothes.
Celine, on the other hand, had a strong first impression of that 80s new wave look for ss19.
There are still leather jackets, and overall pretty edgy. It feels like it leans European bad boy. Perhaps this is the disconnect that made it difficult for the North American crowd to resonate with the image Hedi was crafting for Celine. However, people could really just buy separates and style them however they want. But perception shapes our reality, and I understand how styling presented might have alienated the people who were attracted to Saint Laurent. Personally I feel like the "bad boy/edgy" vibe comes from within the individual rather than the clothes. An individual's energy completes the look, and different people wearing the same pieces will project a different image.
I do like the idea of treating each season as a standalone collection that people can wear year round. So really it is about finding the season(s) that appeal to you the most and deep diving into it.
I don't know if I'm imaging it or not, but I felt like there was a lot more North American engagement with Hedi's Saint Laurent on Instagram. Even beyond Instagram, there was engagement on Reddit and they would make a guide to talk about the "SLP Aesthetic". I always felt that it was heavily fw13 that was what people associated Hedi's Saint Laurent with. It was the first official men's show, so I think that played a role in cementing in people's mind what Hedi's Saint Laurent is about. It also came at a time when grunge was really popular. I also feel like the general impression of the Saint Laurent boy is a stereotypical bad boy. I think there is a large market of people who want to feel cool and badass in their clothes.
Celine, on the other hand, had a strong first impression of that 80s new wave look for ss19.
There are still leather jackets, and overall pretty edgy. It feels like it leans European bad boy. Perhaps this is the disconnect that made it difficult for the North American crowd to resonate with the image Hedi was crafting for Celine. However, people could really just buy separates and style them however they want. But perception shapes our reality, and I understand how styling presented might have alienated the people who were attracted to Saint Laurent. Personally I feel like the "bad boy/edgy" vibe comes from within the individual rather than the clothes. An individual's energy completes the look, and different people wearing the same pieces will project a different image.
I do like the idea of treating each season as a standalone collection that people can wear year round. So really it is about finding the season(s) that appeal to you the most and deep diving into it.
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