SPIER & MACKAY - Official Affiliate Thread

[James1051]

IG Tease:

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Outstanding! on my list for FW.

 

[James1051]

Remember that this is the original sample and it's in neapolitan. The production is the standard two button cut I am pretty sure, after a bunch of people disliked the cord/neapolitan combo the first time it was previewed.

No, really? I remember a couple of gripers, but the reaction was overwhelmingly positive as I recall it.
I for one will be very disappointed if they switched it to standard cut.

 

[kammerer66]

No, really? I remember a couple of gripers, but the reaction was overwhelmingly positive as I recall it.
I for one will be very disappointed if they switched it to standard cut.

Either way would work for me. I worry more about the colors. Fawn or dark olive? Dark olive or fawn?

 

[krollic]

I really like everything about S&M's suits apart from the pant rise. I'm a short man and yet the size 30 slim pants aren't even close to my naval at a 9.5" rise so I can't imagine how low they are on taller men. I think naval rise for the average man is around 11"?
Dress pants are meant to be high rise because it's more flattering, comfortable and ensures that the shirt triangle between the jacket and pants is never seen when the jacket is buttoned up. I hope that you guys consider increasing the rise in the future because I think you have something special here and that's the only thing I think is really lacking in the suit design.

There is a desperate need for online OTR suits designed to be worn with braces that I don't see any company fulfilling atm. I think a lot of you guys here will agree that belts and belt loops on business suits aren't particularly elegant, comfortable or classic.

Thanks

 

[jamie411]

Gah, please don't fire up the belt loops vs side adjusters debate again!

As for that cord jacket - wow, I didn't realize I needed it in my life until I saw that pic again...

 

[losrockets]

@krollic Buttons for braces are a cheap add for any tailor. Seems like you may need to go MTM. OTR can't fit all body shapes and sizes unfortunately. You find the fit that your body tolerates most for things you really want OTR and then MTM/MTO the rest.

 

[krollic]

I'm not bothered about the buttons or the lack thereof. They are as you say, very easy to apply even by ones-self. I've probably sewn them on to at least 10 pairs of pants by now. I'm concerned about the rise because I know that if the rise on a 5'6" man, such as myself is too low (I have normal proportions) then it is absolutely too low for average or taller men. I think most men don't even know it's a thing to be considered when they go shopping for dress pants and yet it is extremely important for the aesthetics and comfort of a suit. If the point of a suit is for it to make you look your best and be comfortable while doing so then that train of thought needs to be applied to every pant of the outfit, not just the jacket.

This is a really good article on the subject

@jamie411 I don't use either

 

[CanadaCal]

It’s hard to ask for a big rise in a size 30. You should try contemporary and tailor it in accordingly.

@induere_to is quite slim and wears a 30 contemp.

 

[kammerer66]

I really like everything about S&M's suits apart from the pant rise. I'm a short man and yet the size 30 slim pants aren't even close to my naval at a 9.5" rise so I can't imagine how low they are on taller men. I think naval rise for the average man is around 11"?
Dress pants are meant to be high rise because it's more flattering, comfortable and ensures that the shirt triangle between the jacket and pants is never seen when the jacket is buttoned up. I hope that you guys consider increasing the rise in the future because I think you have something special here and that's the only thing I think is really lacking in the suit design.

There is a desperate need for online OTR suits designed to be worn with braces that I don't see any company fulfilling atm. I think a lot of you guys here will agree that belts and belt loops on business suits aren't particularly elegant, comfortable or classic.

Thanks

I like the current trouser fit. Don't change it... much.

For fun:

 

[krollic]

guess i'm 75 then

@CanadaCal it's not just a 30 slim. just look at the sizing chart and it's too low for nearly every size in my estimation

 

[kammerer66]

guess i'm 75 then

@CanadaCal it's not just a 30 slim. just look at the sizing chart and it's too low for nearly every size in my estimation

I'm definitely 20. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[krollic]

I'd be legitimately concerned about my member falling out at that rise

 

[lifeinabox]

No, really? I remember a couple of gripers, but the reaction was overwhelmingly positive as I recall it.
I for one will be very disappointed if they switched it to standard cut.

I would instakop the neopolitan version.

 

[kammerer66]

Either way would work for me. I worry more about the colors. Fawn or dark olive? Dark olive or fawn?

...or take a chance with navy?

 

[spiermackay]

No, really? I remember a couple of gripers, but the reaction was overwhelmingly positive as I recall it.
I for one will be very disappointed if they switched it to standard cut.

No. The response was to make it the same as the moleskin from last year as the Neapolitan just wasn't the right silhouette for it. So we changed it to the standard cut. Honestly the only diff would be the 3r2 buttoning and 0.5 cm in the lapel width.

The Neapolitan will have the sharpness toned down as well.