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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. cerneabbas

    cerneabbas Senior member

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    Some times you have to take a chance,I hope that the are a good buy...just have a scrape at the sole,if its soft use them around the house as slippers to get them broke in and then have a thin sole whacked on them ( well that's my theory for what its worth ).
     
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  2. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    Oops, my mistake. I forgot. who was talking.
     
  3. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    My first pair of boots in London in 1968 were cheap, non-DM 'cherry reds' - no idea what the make was. I recall wearing them with my jungle greens ("dockers") on my first return trip to Blackpool. I ditched them later in '68 for a pair of monkey boots.

    Another pair, bought early 1969, were again non-DM. They were brown, fairly high-laced, and I think the shop referred to them as 'commando boots', but that was just the shop's label and had nothing to do with whether they were military surplus. I'm sure they weren't. Labelling in shops wasn't all that reliable sometimes in the 60s. Here are a couple of pics of my feet. You can't see the boots all that well, but you can tell they are not DMs.

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    I wouldn't have bought either style of boot unless I had seen other blokes wearing them or wearing something like them. After the commando boots I had a pair of DMs, but they didn't last long because pretty soon thereafter we all dropped the look and went all arty-farty.

    Gsvs5 mentioned hobnail boots, and said he didn't see many. That reminded me that the North London skinhead who drew me a few cartoons for Yell (I never got around to using them, but I wish I still had them!) drew one of a bunch of skinheads shouting "HOBBY!" (short for 'hobnail'). I'm sure I can remember hearing a bunch of lads somewhere shouting that very word, but you know what an old geezer's memory's like.
     
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    I seem to recall that the term 'commando boots' referred to the type of sole. At one time British Army boots had leather soles with hobnails, whereas those worn by the Royal Marines had thick rubber soles with plenty of 'grip'- hence the distinction 'commando'. Possibly something to do with hobnails sliding about on ships' decks and steps? Boots with this type of sole were said to have 'commando' soles which became shortened to commando boots, whether they were military surplus or not.
     
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    Very Norf London - Riders, Girl's boots, any work boots then 'cherry reds' which could mean any type of ox-blood coloured boots then lastly DM's . Don't remember seeing chunky soled commando styles or steel toe caps (only much later ) It's been said before that boots were dropped quickly in favour of shoes again as you were turned away from pubs for wearing them, even in the daytime. In '69 ish, wouldn't have worn jeans or boots to go out at night anyway, not even down the local.

    White shirts - Seemed to live in plain white long sleeved Oxfords for a couple of years, and not necessarily BS's either. I think the striped shirt missed us ('68/9) judging by the photos from the time, although candy and bengal stripes were popular in earlier mod days. The coloured, gingham and checked patterns seem to fit in with the rest of the country's timeline but the local preference for a white shirt lasted for about 2 years! Adventurous lot eh?
     
  6. cerneabbas

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    I agree with your description of "commando boots",they weren't military boots and those big chunky rubber soles were screwed on.
    I do remember lads wearing ex army boots with leather soles and hobnails in,this would have been in 69 I think,they were kids about 2 years older than me so 13 or 14 in 69.
    BTW theres an advert for a high leg version in Spirit of 69,but it must be from later because the boots were £15.99
     
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  7. Aces and Eights

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    We were wearing cherry red high leg commando boots in 67 and 68 (some steel cap / some not) before Dr martins came in in 69. I have written about this many pages back.

    The first DMs we see/bought were low leg 6 or 8 hole and were a brownish colour and we used 'dubbing' to preserve the leather. They were very expensive at around £7 a pair as opposed to the commando boots at around £3 a pair. the DM boots looked great with Levi jeans or Sta Prest or Jungle Greens

    On the building sites the DMs only lasted a year especially splitting between the sole and the side. The commandos were far more durable but you had to look the part at that age even at work on site

    I have worn DMs for 45 years including all leg heights, shoes and dealers and unfortunately I would not waste my money on them now when the few pairs I have left have worn out. they are over priced and do not break in like the used to. I bought a pair of DM shoes a few years back and they gave me the worst blisters that I have ever experienced and ended up throwing them in the dustbin

    When I visit site I tend now to wear standard issue H&S boots and shoes that although nothing to write home about regarding looks but are really comfortable. - Talk about showing your age - from wearing on site what looks the part to wearing on site what is comfy !!
     
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  8. browniecj

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    As stated before,Black Commando Boots-with Greens pre DMs.


    In the Plaza(Sunday Nights) you were allowed Jeans,which I wore occasionally,but not Boots.The Pub was somewhere where you met up,before you went elsewhere,so a Suit or Semi- Smart was in order. :)
     
  9. cerneabbas

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    Mr Knightley,I listened to ( some ) of this,I didn't like the talking or the music in the first 10 minutes,so I went onto 1hr 23mins.....what a charming lady,she spoke so well and was still so enthusiastic about the subject,the downside to me was the idiotic comments from the "interviewer",why don't clowns like this pipe down and let the person being interviewed talk ?
    I think that it would be so interesting to hear that lady interviewed properly and to answer selected questions from a wider audience,I thought that it was great that she and her husband were doing their own thing before they became aware of Mods in their area.....thank you for providing the link.
     
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    I was looking for overcoats on ebay. I came across these, from a company in London for £50 a pop. Apparently they're 80% Wool, 20% Polyester(yuck) and 5% Cashmere. They look like the sort of thing they used to knock out down the market. I'm definitely not going to risk a nifty on one. They do look alright from afar though.
     
  11. Oneflewover

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    Quote:I like how the photo group includes seggs. Hull 1973/4 in my little circle, brouges where black - DMs where Ox blood.
     
  12. abcxuewenhua

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    good info,Last I read a few months ago Jerry wants nothing to do with it.thanks for your sharing
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  13. sky burial

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    A question for the originals here: Is this similar to the sheepskins you wore or did they have open pockets (without flaps)?
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  14. Man-of-Mystery

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    Which, as you can see, my boots do not have. That's why I made my point about the labelling we used to see in some shops.
     
  15. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    Mine had slanted pockets. [​IMG] It's about as short as you could get away with and still be considered fashionable - the slightly longer ones carried more kudos. I don't recall any particular 'rule' about the style of pockets. More important was the medium tan colour, the single-breasted cut, and the white fleece reverse. Slant pockets were handy for striking a casual pose, I guess.
     
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    They were were mainly slanted Pockets.The real McCoy was a Sheepskin that went to your calf.These were rare,can only remember seeing maybe one or two.
     
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    I think that fastens (in the UK) the woman's way - it looks a tad 'girlie', to me. Sorry. :embar:
     
  18. Aces and Eights

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    Its similar - The colour is too light, the pockets did not have flaps and were slanted and the collar seems a bit wide.

    The ones we wore in my area at the time were from Harry Fentons at £35 - a fortune back then equal to around £700 now

    Ours were 3/4 length - just above the knee. I never took mine off for fear of it being nicked and even wore it in the summer. It lasted for some 20 odd years before finally falling to bits after several tailored repairs. an item of clothing fondly remembered.

    I also ad a black one I bought off a mate in around 71 that ended up being used for work

    Great coats
     
  19. flyfronted

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    Red Wings are the answer .
     
  20. Aces and Eights

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    Thanks - just Googled them - Good looking boots c/w prices to match !!
     

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