Arrogant, I don't think you read this entire thread. I agree with all points you listed, but they didn't really apply to me, on this particular night. My pictures indicated: low/mid rise, pressed pants, pants hanging low off my waist, fitted shirts, 7 in. chest/waist drop, slim cut pants) I agree that "golf pant" patterns are associated with "old man". I have edited the above picture to show where my belly button lies. Pants not even close to it. No, I most certainly have not read most of the thread. I read the original post and a small handful of others. Then I look at the pictures and just offered some thoughts off the top of my head. If they've already been addressed, then so be it. I'm just shooting from the hip and calling it like I see it. If your look that night was anything like the looks pictured on this thread (and one would assume it couldn't have been too different), then yes, I'd say you were in quasi-old man territory. Mainly for the reasons I articulated.