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Questions about "luxury" shirting

JohnMRobie

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It would upset their loyal base of custom shirtmakers. Most shirt makers charge $300 + for a shirt made usung alumo fabrics. Proper cloth will then sell a medicore construted shirt for less then $200. Alumo is then no longer a luxury brand. I don't follow the product line of proper cloth. I doubt Loro Piana will sell propercloth. The industry felt the same way when Albini sold Thomas Mason fabric to J. CREW. The constructions were not the same as what they usually sold. Shirts were made in Mauritious where for some reason shirts could be sent to the USA using higher count fabrics with no additional duty charges. The J Crew customer thought they were getting a fancy shirt. It lowered the value of the Thomas Mason brand
Beyond the industry issues that them offering Alumo would pose, getting one from PC also wouldn’t make a lot of sense to me at a consumer level. With their basic Thomas Mason Hampton running almost $300 their value proposition that seems to appeal to their buyers frankly disappears. You’re pushing into actual bespoke pricing but with the same entry level craftsmanship along with a hope and prayer for fit.
 
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Other than you

other than you recommend shirt makers you respect re value/quality
There are plenty of excellent shirtmakers out there. Unfortunately, most shirts are made in factories that maximize efficiency over quality. There are some very expensive brands selling garments of mediocre construction.

I would have to see a shirt in person to give opinions.
 

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Beyond the industry issues that them offering Alumo would pose, getting one from PC also wouldn’t make a lot of sense to me at a consumer level. With their basic Thomas Mason Hampton running almost $300 their value proposition that seems to appeal to their buyers frankly disappears. You’re pushing into actual bespoke pricing but with the same entry level craftsmanship along with a hope and prayer for fit.
I was not aware that propercloth was selling a shirt from TM Hampton for $300. That is no bargain .. if it was in the low 200 it would be a bargain. At $295. They have a very good margin.
 

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I was not aware that propercloth was selling a shirt from TM Hampton for $300. That is no bargain .. if it was in the low 200 it would be a bargain. At $295. They have a very good margin.
They don’t disclose the fabric number or bunch on their site but Thomas Mason 140/2 twill is $275 before you add MOP buttons instead of plastic for $10. Their DJA 120/2 is $350. For someone who wants a no name broadcloth and has $100 to spend sure, whatever. But if you are starting to get into those prices and fabrics they don’t even deserve to be a part of the conversation IMO.
 

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Speaking of luxury shirting. A fresh delivery from Fiorenzo in DJA 200/2 Popeline. My shirt taste is very much soporific but I decided to branch out with some bolder stripes (at least compared to my usual orders).
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Isn’t Anto the shop that makes for a lot of movies?

Also, I’m considering taking the plunge on RLPL MTM for dress shirts. Nice fabric selection.
RLPL mtm probably costs more than bespoke.

Okay, so maybe this is unpopular, but I don’t see the point in 400€+ for a shirt. 100 hands, I’m sure is nice, but the fabric won’t last long enough for the workmanship of that level to matter.

I like my stuff to be functional. It reminds me of an old quote from Antonio Panico: “a ferrari is arm candy. A Porsche is a woman to love.”

A quote I like so much, I’m putting it in my signature haha
 
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The problem I encounter is on the one hand one’s reluctance to spend crazy sums on white/blue solid staples hence the search for different interesting striking colors. In my case I love orange. But to spend 100 Hands prices for an orange stripe feels excessive too. Oh well. Might as well enjoy one’s bourgeois tastes
 

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