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Archibald London Hand Welted Shoes - preorder issues, discussion,and resolution.

yshin10

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Any updates? Everyone gotten money back or a compensation?
Would anyone mind put a summery on the first page so readers get the Infos and don’t need to go through 86 pages? Preferably @Jmr928 .
I have received my full refund AND a partial refund. I had two pairs, decided to keep one and send one back. Pretty happy with it.
 

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Good things are being solved for all involved!

I don't really get the new name of this thread. What is the "preorder issue" mentioned? And why does it state "hand welted shoes", when this thread is about the non-hand welted ones?
Oh **** off ..... :)
 

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Good things are being solved for all involved!

I don't really get the new name of this thread. What is the "preorder issue" mentioned? And why does it state "hand welted shoes", when this thread is about the non-hand welted ones?

Perhaps it should be in quotes.
 

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Cant believe someone thought it would be a good idea to reopen this thread.

We should be shutting down more threads, not reopening closed ones.

Shut down every shoe thread
Then shut down every bespoke thread
Now shut down the Drake's thread
Now shut down down StyleForum
Next, shut down every menswear blog
Now shut down menswear-adjacent sites like Instagram
Now shut down Elon Musk's Twitter account and anyone who has ever tweeted about him
Now shut down anyone who has ever tweeted "you sir, just earned yourself a like"
Now shut down all of Twitter
Now shut down every Facebook account that has ever said "I'm into style not fashion"
Now shut down anyone who has ever talked about crypto currencies
Now shut down Joe Rogan's podcast
Now shut down literally every podcast
Next, shut down literally the entire internet
 

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Cant believe someone thought it would be a good idea to reopen this thread.

We should be shutting down more threads, not reopening closed ones.

Shut down every shoe thread
Then shut down every bespoke thread
Now shut down the Drake's thread
Now shut down down StyleForum
Next, shut down every menswear blog
Now shut down menswear-adjacent sites like Instagram
Now shut down Elon Musk's Twitter account and anyone who has ever tweeted about him
Now shut down anyone who has ever tweeted "you sir, just earned yourself a like"
Now shut down all of Twitter
Now shut down everyone who has ever said "I like fashion not style"
Now shut down anyone who has ever talked about crypto currencies
Now shut down Joe Rogan's podcast
Now shut down literally every podcast
Next, shut down literally the entire internet
At the very least, Ed's gif thread.
He keeps effing them up...
 

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Cant believe someone thought it would be a good idea to reopen this thread.

We should be shutting down more threads, not reopening closed ones.

Shut down every shoe thread
Then shut down every bespoke thread
Now shut down the Drake's thread
Now shut down down StyleForum
Next, shut down every menswear blog
Now shut down menswear-adjacent sites like Instagram
Now shut down Elon Musk's Twitter account and anyone who has ever tweeted about him
Now shut down anyone who has ever tweeted "you sir, just earned yourself a like"
Now shut down all of Twitter
Now shut down every Facebook account that has ever said "I'm into style not fashion"
Now shut down anyone who has ever talked about crypto currencies
Now shut down Joe Rogan's podcast
Now shut down literally every podcast
Next, shut down literally the entire internet
Derek read crimethinc once in middle school and thinks he's black bloc
 

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I see this thread has been busy. I have also been reached out to by AoL regarding returning my pair. I don't think they could've resolved this in a better way. I'm still optimistic about the company despite recent events, and if they do end up making a wholecut shell chelsea boot, hand-welted, I'll be first in line.
 

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For them to work they will have to charge accordingly, not sure who he is going to work with again but I’d say if EB does a wholecut Chelsea in shell you probably should go for that (or pay up with AM)
 

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I see this thread has been busy. I have also been reached out to by AoL regarding returning my pair. I don't think they could've resolved this in a better way. I'm still optimistic about the company despite recent events, and if they do end up making a wholecut shell chelsea boot, hand-welted, I'll be first in line.

Can you really make a wholecut chelsea boot at all? Wouldn't the elastic count as not whole cut?
 

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Can you really make a wholecut chelsea boot at all? Wouldn't the elastic count as not whole cut?

Nah, the leather part is only thing that decides if it's a wholecut or not, doesn't matter what pattern is apart from that.

Cordovan wholecut chelseas have been tried to do production of a number of times, last in line was Viberg a few years ago, they switched to a regular pattern with side seam after a year or so since fit and look became off on the wholecuts. You always have the same problem, it's too difficult to block the shell well without tearing it, so it's not suitable. You can make a pair or so here or there, as for example Meccariello has and some bespoke makers, but to do it well on a production line is too much of a hassle if you really want it to be good. You saw it on the sample of Archibald's as well, they couldn't manage the blocking properly, you get an instep and front of the ankle that neither look good nor works well on the foot.
 

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Nah, the leather part is only thing that decides if it's a wholecut or not, doesn't matter what pattern is apart from that.

Cordovan wholecut chelseas have been tried to do production of a number of times, last in line was Viberg a few years ago, they switched to a regular pattern with side seam after a year or so since fit and look became off on the wholecuts. You always have the same problem, it's too difficult to block the shell well without tearing it, so it's not suitable. You can make a pair or so here or there, as for example Meccariello has and some bespoke makers, but to do it well on a production line is too much of a hassle if you really want it to be good. You saw it on the sample of Archibald's as well, they couldn't manage the blocking properly, you get an instep and front of the ankle that neither look good nor works well on the foot.
Lattanzi has some, also I have seen some with whole cut no stitches in the back.
But expensive, very expensive.
 

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Lattanzi has some, also I have seen some with whole cut no stitches in the back.
But expensive, very expensive.

Yeah but Lattanzi isn't really doing this on a production line, they are a good example of "a pair or so here or there".

You mean seamless cordovan wholecut? I know some tried it, but it's like with the wholecut boots but worse, the low tensile strength makes it very, very difficult and if you manage not tearing it the end result ends up really bad. So if they've managed, I'd liked to see it.
 

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Yeah but Lattanzi isn't really doing this on a production line, they are a good example of "a pair or so here or there".

You mean seamless cordovan wholecut? I know some tried it, but it's like with the wholecut boots but worse, the low tensile strength makes it very, very difficult and if you manage not tearing it the end result ends up really bad. So if they've managed, I'd liked to see it.
As I remember they had seamless corodovan shoes in Milano boutique, some years ago. I could be wrong also.

STefano Bemer also, but I am not sure of it was cordovan, it looked like it.
 

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