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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    the on on the left is the only watch I wear any more - a pilot's watch from the 1920's - bought in prague with an origional band that was large enough to fit outside the sleeve of a leather jacket. the body is aluminum.

    the one of the right is a chinese made 4 time zone automatic.
     
  2. dkzzzz

    dkzzzz Senior member

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    There are no Panerai watches below 40mm. Which style are you interested in? Luminor (with the crown guard) or Radiomir (cushion shape)?


    Several reasons but the three main ones IMO are
    (1) popularity of the design yet expensive price point (similar to Rolex sub in that regard)
    (2) limited production levels so difficult to find the models one wants at a dealer (specifically the most classic ones)
    (3) For most of its models, Panerai is using ETA and Valjoux movements with modifications generally limited to decorations and a couple more things (e.g. swan neck regulator). ETA movements are easy to procure so making a fake with a movement which looks very similar to the OP movement is not that hard. In addition, fake ETA movements are now made as well, which makes it even easier.

    Reason #3 is one of the primary reasons why OP has started rolling out its own manufacture movements.


    40mm that is a bit too large. I like both shapes actually. They must be so top heavy. How do you keep it from sliding around your wrist? Is there common name to the shape that Panerai uses (that semi-rectangular shape)?
     
  3. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    40mm that is a bit too large. I like both shapes actually. They must be so top heavy. How do you keep it from sliding around your wrist? Is there common name to the shape that Panerai uses (that semi-rectangular shape)?

    You should try one on. It sits very well on the wrist and does not slide at all.

    Regarding the shape, are you referring to the Luminor or Radiomir shape? (see difference here)

    The Radiomir shape is typically called "cushion". The Luminor shape is unique to Panerai but is sometimes referred to as cushion as well

    EDIT: if you like the Radiomir case shape but want the smallest possible case. PAM62 is a great choice (this is not my watch or photo):
    [​IMG]

    It is a 40mm case. As a comparison, my PAM210 at the top of this thread is 45mm
     
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    the on on the left is the only watch I wear any more - a pilot's watch from the 1920's

    Love it; you should do it justice with a proper photo.
     
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    Just back from Bonhams auction house where I bought this little beauty:

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    http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/publi...&iSaleNo=15298

    The pink gold is much warmer than in the photograph. Any suggestion for a new strap?

    Well, I haven't paid for it yet, so it's only a picture for now.
     
  6. Teacher

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    Also, I prefer a vintage watch to have a strap that looks "right". All to often, I see a pic of a vintage watch with a brand new croc or leather band that looks so out of place, no patina.


    The really vintage bands that I find are in awful shape, so new are my only recourse. Don't know about others.
     
  7. Omegablogger

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    Streetwear and denim style.

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  8. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    OB - i love the PO with black bezel. It's an itch I've been wanting to scratch for a while. It's such a great looking dive watch and the new bracelet is really awesome [​IMG]
     
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    I would dearly love a vintage watch like one of those but I know so little about watches I fear I would end up getting ripped off...also I am too poor.

    Perhaps I will educate myself one of these days.

    Do you guys buy your vintage watches online or at auctions or what?
     
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    The really vintage bands that I find are in awful shape, so new are my only recourse. Don't know about others.
    Not a fan of what Squinky has on eBay as vintage NOS? He is a TZ seller as well... here is a 1950's lizard band I just got from him (haven't moisturized it yet or put it on): [​IMG]
    Do you guys buy your vintage watches online or at auctions or what?
    I've found a few sellers on Timezone that I follow and stick to what they offer. PM me if you want a link or a few suggestions.
     
  11. gdl203

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    The pink gold is much warmer than in the photograph. Any suggestion for a new strap?

    I am partial to brown straps with PG and RG cases. I would recommend a rich brown alligator strap, matte finish. Does it come with a PG buckle?
     
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    I am partial to brown straps with PG and RG cases. I would recommend a rich brown alligator strap, matte finish. Does it come with a PG buckle?

    With PG/RG I also like rich brown but with a bit of red in it (see above!).
     
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    I'll help. My favorite watch. I probably wear it more than any other. IWC 5441 Jubilee Portugesier. I drove from Philadelphia to Princeton in a snowstorm to meet a guy from Brooklyn at a train station to collect this watch.

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    BEAUTIFUL watch, one of the nicest I've ever seen. Out of curiosity, what's the ballpark on those? They were limited edition, correct?
     
  14. Thurston

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    BEAUTIFUL watch, one of the nicest I've ever seen. Out of curiosity, what's the ballpark on those? They were limited edition, correct?

    Thanks. Yes, they were LE: 1000 ss ($8,500), 500 rg ($12,500) & 250 pt ($21,500). They were released in 1993, probably all produced by 1995 and many sat at dealers through 2000. Then they became the hottest watch for collectors. I bought this one at the end of 2005. Through a series of WTB ads, targeted emails to people who know people in watches and answering old FS ads, I turned up two in every metal. At that time, steel was going for $12k, gold was going for $15-$16k and platinum $20-$22k.

    I even uncovered an ultra-rare Pisa Portuguesier for about $16k, but that was just too rich - even though I consider the Pisa the most beautiful of the lot.
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    A lot of the modern high-end straps are too thick to look good on the vintage watches.

    However, I've seen some vintage watches with straps like these:

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  16. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    A lot of the modern high-end straps are too thick to look good on the vintage watches.

    However, I've seen some vintage watches with straps like these:

    http://images.snapfish.com/34647368&...67774%3Anu0mrj


    Modern high-end straps can be purchased with various levels of padding. You're correct that unpadded straps are sometimes a better match for thin vintage watches. The one pictured seems to have slight padding
     
  17. LabelKing

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    I think this strap is very nice:

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  18. Stax

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    I'll start

    Panerai PAM210, modified with 18k gold plating on hands
    [​IMG]


    nice
     
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    late 50s early 60s Tiffany AP on a new (very thin) strap. [​IMG] pic quality is horrible. oh well.
     
  20. mafoofan

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    I even uncovered an ultra-rare Pisa Portuguesier for about $16k, but that was just too rich - even though I consider the Pisa the most beautiful of the lot.
    [​IMG]


    The Pisa Port really is beautiful. I just don't like the 'Pisa' branding over the sub-dial. I appreciate that Cellini doesn't visibly sub-brand the limited editions they commission.
     
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