On ‘over-dressing’

[mak1277]

Very well, Prince Andrew. Is he aristocratic enough for you? We can discuss how “distinguished“ he is, in light of recent accusations, if you wish.

So wait...if [insert asshole's name] wears a suit, it means all suit wearers are tainted?

 

[Isochronous]

1. ‘Slovenian’? Is that the equivalent of Savile Row?

2. Can she hold a good conversation in English ? Or is she just there for show? (lets assume the Slovenian is a she. If not that’s another conversation)

3. Are there any good value alternatives you can mention, for those who cannot afford Savile Row?

TaiPan Row.

 

[Coffandcig]

That's a fair point, it's all about the environment - a factory floor is a very different place from a city office. I wouldn't wear a suit to a factory myself because I wouldn't want to ruin or dirty it (bespoke suits should be treated as cherished assets)

So... you're saying you don't want to be... overdressed?

 

[pwbower]

And with that, this thread has gone from being merely laughable to representing the very worst caricature of Classic Menswear. Well done.

Amen.

 

[Coffandcig]

Is it fair to judge an entire set of people by what was behaviourally probably the worst years of their lives?

Yes? I mean, isn't that how judging works?

 

[Dadacantona]

So wait...if [insert asshole's name] wears a suit, it means all suit wearers are tainted?

not at all. My point relates to the notion that “well bred” people are distinguished, polite, whatever, or that any of this relates to the clothes that we wear, all of which is bollocks.

 

[Nobilis Animus]

Very well, Prince Andrew. Is he aristocratic enough for you? We can discuss how “distinguished“ he is, in light of recent accusations, if you wish.

I certainly do not make the case for every member of an aristocratic family being distinguished; that would snuff out a great deal of delightful anecdotes throughout history. I was simply pointing out that the politician in question has nothing to do with the upper class - an association that irked me. Carry on, otherwise.

Edit: I would have been just as bothered if he were claiming to be a "man of the people" or some such nonsense.

 

[Dadacantona]

I certainly do not make the case for every member of an aristocratic family being distinguished; that would snuff out a great deal of delightful anecdotes throughout history. I was simply pointing out that the politician in question has nothing to do with the upper class - an association that irked me. Carry on, otherwise.

Edit: I would have been just as bothered if he were claiming to be a "man of the people" or some such nonsense.

At least four generations of Cameron's maternal ancestors attended Eton and all help positions of power. Moneyed people in any event. Whether they were members of the aristocracy is neither here nor there; they are part of the ruling class and I think the point still stands.

 

[Nobilis Animus]

At least four generations of Cameron's maternal ancestors attended Eton and all help positions of power. Moneyed people in any event. Whether they were members of the aristocracy is neither here nor there; they are part of the ruling class and I think the point still stands.

I think you'd get a kick out of one of my favorite books: Brewer's Rogues, Villains, and Eccentrics. Lots of examples in there of people behaving bizarrely - many of them from the upper classes.

 

[mak1277]

I think you'd get a kick out of one of my favorite books: Brewer's Rogues, Villains, and Eccentrics. Lots of examples in there of people behaving bizarrely - many of them from the upper classes.

Isn't one of the benefits of being rich the opportunity to behave boorishly with fewer consequences?

 

[Nobilis Animus]

Isn't one of the benefits of being rich the opportunity to behave boorishly with fewer consequences?

Oh, but there were consequences for some - in fact, I enjoy reading about the outliers almost as much as the great men who have shaped history just because of their escapades.

I'm also one of those historians who does not equate wealth with class, so there's that.

 

[comrade]

1. ‘Slovenian’? Is that the equivalent of Savile Row?

2. Can she hold a good conversation in English ? Or is she just there for show? (lets assume the Slovenian is a she. If not that’s another conversation)

3. Are there any good value alternatives you can mention, for those who cannot afford Savile Row?

Trump is married to a statuesque Slovenian model who speaks English, but
he certainly does not dress Savile Row.

 

[Kingstonian]

Trump is married to a statuesque Slovenian model who speaks English, but
he certainly does not dress Savile Row.

No Trump does not dress Savile Row. He might need to work on that, though it’s unlikely he will. He has a decent overcoat though. Maybe he could just wear that all the time?

Previously he was married to a Czech. So a mid European pattern there.

 

[horseman40]

No Trump does not dress Savile Row. He might need to work on that, though it’s unlikely he will. He has a decent overcoat though. Maybe he could just wear that all the time?

Previously he was married to a Czech. So a mid European pattern there.

Well....Obozo certainly did not dress Savile Row...he probably could not even pronounce the word. Maybe he could pronounce K Mart.

 

[Nobilis Animus]

Maybe he could pronounce K Mart.

That's far too close to "smart," I'm afraid. Probably not happening.