Mod to Suedehead

[Get Smart]

Originally Posted by loempiavreter

Talking about teds going mod, I've seen it before:

I'd always heard the first mods that appeared around 1958/59 were former Teds who got bored of rocknroll and moved on to the new "hip" music, modernist jazz. And as they were a bit older, would teach younger new mods (who were never teds) how to fight etc. Urban subculture myth? Maybe that last part but def can see it as a progression as the music of the day changed

 

[loempiavreter]

I got myself a deadstock Levi Sta-Prest in this colour

payed a good bit of money on it. it was a bit to long, so I cut it shorter, but ******** up and now it's ruined. Since then I never dare to buy another again.

Originally Posted by Get Smart

I'd always heard the first mods that appeared around 1958/59 were former Teds who got bored of rocknroll and moved on to the new "hip" music, modernist jazz. And as they were a bit older, would teach younger new mods (who were never teds) how to fight etc. Urban subculture myth? Maybe that last part but def can see it as a progression as the music of the day changed
Hehe, could be possible in a few occassions. But not every mod was like those gangs from Somers Town or Stepney Green.

 

[Man-of-Mystery]

Originally Posted by loempiavreter

I got myself a deadstock Levi Sta-Prest in this colour

payed a good bit of money on it.

it was a bit to long, so I cut it shorter, but ******** up and now it's ruined. Since then I never dare to buy another again.

Oh bad karma!

 

[Little Queenie]

Originally Posted by Ancillotti

I think you'll find as long as you keep yer sheepskin over the details I've mentioned, the Relco ones will fit the bill.
http://www.adaptorclothing.com/produ...ers-stone.html

Admittedly the material doesn't have the quality feel of the old Levis, but these new "levis staprest" have the same cut as jeans with a yoked arse, raised seams down the leg and belt loops like jeans. Nothing like the original Sta-prest.

I've tried the Relcos and, as Ancillotti says, they are the most like original Levi Sta-prest that I've been able to find. They wash pretty well too and hold a crease better than most cheap Sta-prest. Size wise, I got a size larger than I wear in 501s and they fit well (not that I'm suggesting you're my shape!!!)

I think it was winter 68-69 at the earliest, and I wasn't the first to wear them by a long way.

Do you remember girls wearing them early on ('68)? I've seen later ('69) photos of them wearing Sta-prest, but was wondering when they first picked up on this part of the look.

 

[Man-of-Mystery]

Originally Posted by Little Queenie

Do you remember girls wearing them early on ('68)? I've seen later ('69) photos of them wearing Sta-prest, but was wondering when they first picked up on this part of the look.
Hi Queenie! '69 yes, but not 68.

 

[C3PLOS]

Originally Posted by Southlondongent

Well there were cliques of kids in the US in the 60's who thought of themselves as Mods though the look was a more Carnaby St based one (think Austin Powers and you wouldn't be too far off!) than the more stylish Ivy/Italian influenced look & the music more Beat/Garage than Soul, R&B etc.

The Rationals from Michigan who did some quite good moddish covers of obscure (at the time)soul/R&B tracks were probably closest to bands like the Small Faces or Spencer Davis Group in music & style.

Powder from Northern California. Kinda Who/Creation style Pop Art.

Love the photo of Powder! On that note, a buddy of ours is working on getting those guys to play the Bay Area again. In college, I did a paper on the Mod influence in the U.S. My big thing was how the term 'Mod' went from a noun in the U.K. to an adjective in the U.S. with everything going 'Mod!'.

And it's weird for me to admit this these days, but I now understand the Mod (d)evolution to hippies, especially in the U.K. That Carnaby Street look was all about pushing clothing boundaries further and further, to the point where the originals had reached an age where clothing wasn't as important anymore as the political issues they were facing. I used to hate seeing pics of old mod bands looking more and more hippie in later years, but now I kind of understand it a bit more. Especially because these guys were going through that 'growth' for the first time.

 

[Southlondongent]

Originally Posted by C3PLOS

Love the photo of Powder! On that note, a buddy of ours is working on getting those guys to play the Bay Area again. In college, I did a paper on the Mod influence in the U.S. My big thing was how the term 'Mod' went from a noun in the U.K. to an adjective in the U.S. with everything going 'Mod!'.

And it's weird for me to admit this these days, but I now understand the Mod (d)evolution to hippies, especially in the U.K. That Carnaby Street look was all about pushing clothing boundaries further and further, to the point where the originals had reached an age where clothing wasn't as important anymore as the political issues they were facing. I used to hate seeing pics of old mod bands looking more and more hippie in later years, but now I kind of understand it a bit more. Especially because these guys were going through that 'growth' for the first time.

A bit off topic but I was listening to that Rationals CD today and it struck me how they were covering things in 66/67 that no other US white band were doing. For example covers of the Knight Brothers 'Temptations bout to get me' & the Esquires 'Listen to me' that would give the Action a run for their money.

 

[Southlondongent]

Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery

Anyone know where in the UK I can get a near approximation of a pair of late 1960s Levi Sta-Prest trousers in stone colour? And do they do weird sizes, because I have put on weight in my middle age!

Jump the Gun aren't bad however they are pretty slim cut - some people buy a size up...

http://www.jumpthegun.co.uk/product/Beige_Sta_Prest

Adam of London trousers - no stone but are good quality for the price & not as slim as the JTG for the 'fuller' figure...

http://www.adamoflondon.com/aol_news...oduct_list&c=3

He does nice whistles & crombie-style coats also...

 

[Southlondongent]

Originally Posted by C3PLOS

And it's weird for me to admit this these days, but I now understand the Mod (d)evolution to hippies, especially in the U.K. That Carnaby Street look was all about pushing clothing boundaries further and further, to the point where the originals had reached an age where clothing wasn't as important anymore as the political issues they were facing. I used to hate seeing pics of old mod bands looking more and more hippie in later years, but now I kind of understand it a bit more. Especially because these guys were going through that 'growth' for the first time.

Also, I saw this in the '90's London Mod scene (the pushing boundaries bit). A kind of 'dandier than thou' one-upmanship that ended up with guys who in, say, 1990 were in tailor-made mohair suits by the mid/late '90's looked like extras from 'Jason King'!

And, on-topic, some trad-skins at the same time (mid/late 90's) were not immune from this moving through suedehead to a 'boot-boy' look with Slade-esq barnets, baggies, beagle collars etc. Not to mention suits with umpteen ticket pockets & cuff-buttons

 

[Man-of-Mystery]

Originally Posted by Southlondongent

Not to mention suits with umpteen ticket pockets & cuff-buttons

Like the Merton Parkas said, "a man ain't a man with a ticket in his hand"!

 

[Southlondongent]

Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery

Like the Merton Parkas said, "a man ain't a man with a ticket in his hand"!

Please don't bring up the M****n P****s!!

 

[Man-of-Mystery]

Originally Posted by Southlondongent

Please don't bring up the M****n P****s!!

I couldn't resist it!

 

[Get Smart]

Originally Posted by Man-of-Mystery

Like the Merton Parkas said, "a man ain't a man with a ticket in his hand"!

well now the thread has hit a new low

but I'll admit I own their record

 

[Man-of-Mystery]

Originally Posted by Get Smart

well now the thread has hit a new low

but I'll admit I own their record

well now Jason has hit a new low

 

[Big Muscle]

Originally Posted by Southlondongent

Jump the Gun aren't bad however they are pretty slim cut - some people buy a size up...

http://www.jumpthegun.co.uk/product/Beige_Sta_Prest

I like their look very much, I also like "15.5" width bottom" as they stated (I'm also interested whether it depends on waist size, I'm 36"-38" - so probably 38" for slim fit) , but it is bad they have only 32" length. I would need 34"-36". I will probably stuck with beige 501s that I'm planning for next spring. Would you prefer preshunk or shrink-to-fit version?