Ambrosi Napoli

mmkn · Apr 20, 2011

Originally Posted by TRINI

Anywhere there's heat/sun involved, you can expect some form of added time.

Don't forget humidity.

- M

Wes Bourne · Apr 20, 2011

done get fucked?

geoffmartin17 · Apr 20, 2011

^^ I lol'ed

comrade · Apr 20, 2011

Originally Posted by Mr Herbert

as an australian, im going to take offence at the comment some time next month

Good point. Now we're talking about culture, not climate.

Gus · Apr 20, 2011

Originally Posted by Wes Bourne

done get fucked?

quar · Apr 20, 2011

I enjoy the passive-aggressive exchanges between Foo and NYR. That is all.

Gus · Apr 20, 2011

The reality is that true craftsmanship is hard to come by in this world. The other reality is that we expect people to under promise and over deliver. If you you want the former, you might need to relax your requirements for the latter.

TheFoo · Apr 20, 2011

Originally Posted by Big A

Ha ha, now it's class warfare.

Class has got nothing to do with it. Although, that you think so only goes to prove the effectiveness of NYR's constant insinuation to the contrary. I get it now. Poor tailors, poor schoolteachers. Can't stop making clothes, can't stop buying them. Can't think for themselves, apparently.

Originally Posted by scruff

******* twit.

What, don't like 'em big words?

Originally Posted by quar

I enjoy the passive-aggressive exchanges between Foo and NYR. That is all.

Didn't realize I was being passive.

maomao1980 · Apr 20, 2011

I'm imagining some kind of show-down, MIchael Jackson Beat-it style, in the Spanish Quarters.

Viktri · Apr 20, 2011

Originally Posted by quar

I enjoy the passive-aggressive exchanges between Foo and NYR. That is all.
Really? One guy paid lots of money for pants. These pants are good value and but also expensive. He has no money and no pants. The other guy spouts off about business without knowing anything about business. Skimming his posts hurt my brain. The whole idea that bigger companies necessarily have poor customer service and bigger companies produce lesser quality garments is bunk. The owner chooses to expand and chooses his level of customer service/quality in the people he hires. Blaming this mythical evil business thing is idiotic.

Newcomer · Apr 20, 2011

quar · Apr 20, 2011

Clearly when Foo stated that "nobody" puts more handwork into pants, he was referring to makers that he is aware of. We all know that. NYR coming in and randomly slaying him for that comment came across to me as insecure and unnecessary. Obviously there was some sarcasm in my description of this exchange as "passive-aggressive".

quar · Apr 20, 2011

And that BS that NYR is trying to sell about SF ruining SA's reliabilty and level of service is rubbish. I couldn't agree more with what iammatt has said. Certainly in the business I am in, I refrain from taking on more work than I can handle, so why wouldn't we expect the same of our tailors.

teddieriley · Apr 20, 2011

I want me some pents. That is all.

sellahi22 · Apr 20, 2011

Originally Posted by Viktri

The other guy spouts off about business without knowing anything about business. Skimming his posts hurt my brain. The whole idea that bigger companies necessarily have poor customer service and bigger companies produce lesser quality garments is bunk. The owner chooses to expand and chooses his level of customer service/quality in the people he hires. Blaming this mythical evil business thing is idiotic.

Who's blaming "this mythical evil business thing"?

No one is blaming Ambrosi for wanting to expand his business, it's just that he's making a mess of it. To some extent it's understandable; these guys are trouser-makers, not businessmen. If they were doing good business making trousers as a father-son team in their Naples workshop, I really wonder how they intend to maintain quality control and reliability while spending half their time touring the world to take orders. Presumably they'll move to the standard cutter-tailor bespoke model, but I don't see how they will continue to surpass all of their competitors in quality while maintaining lower prices, the way they have in the past. The point is that they will need to figure it out, and there will be growing pains and compromises, but their current customers - especially ones who have helped them build their brand - should not suffer.

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