Styling cues from the Royals?

Clench Million · Apr 20, 2008

Remember, he has to be appropriate to his social class and his public. If he dressed like George Clooney or Luca di Montezemolo (http://asuitablewardrobe.dynend.com/...ckets-fit.html) the press in England would tear him to shreds.

I'm a bit confused about where the goal posts are now.

I'm not saying Prince Charles should dress like a hollywood actor. I'm not saying the British tabloids would like that nor would I disagree that he has a narrow bland style he has to employ due to his position and class.

But the question in the original post that I was responding to was this:

No, I don't think they should. The royal style is bland, outdated and unsuitable for the consuming public at large. Your claim that he has to dress that way due to his position and class suggests maybe we even agree.

What kind of designer could make a living off of aping the Royals? It just isn't a good style for the 21st century.

clubbyjones · Apr 20, 2008

The Royals dress straight out of the Brooks Brothers/ J. Press catalog. It's classy old-guard to the core.

Orsini · Apr 20, 2008

... a bit darker shade of blue in the shirt would help.
A British Royal in anything approaching French blue? You just do not appreciate the context.

... Nothing about it gives off a sense of individual style.
He is English! The goal of the socially conservative Englishman in dressing is to be appropriately dressed, relative to their values, for every occasion -- not to look groovy, cool, sexy, stylish, or bitchin'! In addition, their choices for suit, tie, shoes, for any given occasion are extremely limited by their stylistic paradigm. That is why, other than their dress shirts -- which can be quite wild from our frame of reference -- they can look to Yankee or a Continental who is unaware of classic style as described by Roetzel, Molloy, Flusser, Keers, et al., as somewhat bland.

... he looks pretty much like every middle manager in america in that photo.
I doubt that extremely!

Orsini · Apr 20, 2008

...The royal style is bland, outdated and unsuitable for the consuming public at large...
Not in England.

Clench Million · Apr 20, 2008

Orsini, don't you understand you are only reinforcing my point?

As you admit, the british royal style is "extremely limited by their stylistic paradigm." Even if you think such a narrow bland style is appropriate for the royals themselves, you don't think it should be what designers and the consuming public ape?

Again, I'm not saying Charles dresses inappropriately for his station and place, just that his style is not a good one for the masses or for designers to follow.

Clench Million · Apr 20, 2008

Not in England.

Again, you are debating a different question than I am. Just because English people dress badly and the Royals are forced to have a extremely narrow and bland style hardly means that they are appropriate fashion icons for designers and the consuming public (ie, the topic of this thread).

Panzeraxe II · Apr 20, 2008

The point is that the Royals do not have a 'bland' sense of style. Everyone here (except for you) agrees with that. Why don't you post some pics of stylish celebrities (real-life pics, not spreads from Men's Vogue)?

Clench Million · Apr 20, 2008

Um, several other people have said the same thing as me and even Orsini, in his last post, said the Royals style "can look to a Yankee or a Continental, as somewhat bland".... which really is as good as saying they look bland to the rest of the world, as continental europe and america are the centers of western fashion.

Why would you need real life pics? This thread is about who designers and the consuming public look to for fashion advice. If someone wants to dress like a hollywood celebrity, they are probably going to base in on pics from Esquire, not paparazzi shots of Clooney scratching his balls while picking up the morning newspaper.

Orsini · Apr 20, 2008

I am commenting on your comment regarding Prince Charles. I could not care less about designers. Once you kick the ball off, you cannot control where it goes.

Eustace Tilley · Apr 20, 2008

Um, several other people have said the same thing as me and even Orsini, in his last post, said the Royals style "can look to a Yankee or a Continental, as somewhat bland".... which really is as good as saying they look bland to the rest of the world, as continental europe and america are the centers of western fashion.

Why would you need real life pics? This thread is about who designers and the consuming public look to for fashion advice. If someone wants to dress like a hollywood celebrity, they are probably going to base in on pics from Esquire, not paparazzi shots of Clooney scratching his balls while picking up the morning newspaper.

This thread is going nowhere. If you think Prince Charles looks like 'middle management,' you must tell us the name of the firm where you work?

Clench Million · Apr 20, 2008

I am commenting on your comment regarding Prince Charles. I could not care less about designers. Once you kick the ball off, you cannot control where it goes.

I don't mind, I just think your comments are... I dunno, playing a different game than mine.

I say he looks bad in that picture, you ask me why, I state several reasons and then your defense is that he has too look that way due to the constraints of his station.

Okay, but that is basically just saying he has to look bad. If you disagree with my aesthetic opinions, fair enough, but telling me Charles has no choice but to dress how he does doesn't make him any more stylish.

Its like if I say someone in a basketball uniform looks bad. You can respond that the league mandates that uniform and you'd be right, but it doesn't make the person look any better.

Orsini · Apr 20, 2008

...hardly means that they are appropriate fashion icons for designers and the consuming public (IE, the topic of this thread).
It looks to me like the OP's subject is: "Styling cues from the Royals?" That is what the title of the thread says. As I indicated previously, for one who aspires to classic style, the British and Continental royal families are quite appropriate as models.

Orsini · Apr 20, 2008

...I say he looks bad in that picture...
Am I am telling you: you are wrong. He looks great!

Orsini · Apr 20, 2008

...Orsini...said the Royals style "can look to a Yankee or a Continental, as somewhat bland"....
I regret any confusion my poor communication may have caused. I will go back and correct that now.

Frog in Suit · Apr 20, 2008

Again, I'm not saying Charles dresses inappropriately for his station and place, just that his style is not a good one for the masses or for designers to follow.

To which I shall respond, as gently and constructively as I can (which takes quite an effort, believe me):

Let the masses and their designers go to the devil!

Frog in Suit

PS: I believe the proper form is HRH the Prince of Wales. And no, I do not belong to those circles. But manners do count and trying to emulate the masses and popular designers is what turns us into sheep or lemmings in human shape.

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