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Yohji, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The Looser Fit (Yohji Yamamoto Thread)

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Ivwri, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. the shah

    the shah Senior member

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    david i was about to buy that cardigan and i have the same hakamas lol cardi does run a bit small tho, when i tried it on had a thick cotton collared shirt and it was a bit snug, i imagined it would be better with a light tee.
    how tall are you btw, am guessing 5'10ish since you say these are all sz3 ? i think the cardi worn open like you say would be stunning and let out a bit more of the contrasting white
     
  2. davidlee388

    davidlee388 Senior member

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    I'm afraid I'm only Yohji-Sanish in height. 1.68m ( 5"6 - 5"7 ) I tried it on before the sale in Conduit and SA kept one aside as soon as presale started, grab it I did. There was another cardigan like this in the store too, can't remember the details mow. I tried on about 5 or 6 SS12 blazers, only the linen 2B boxy number with a buttoned tab for the lapel fitted well in sz 2 ( my usual sz ). Didn't try a single pair of Hakamas there lol, didn't think at the time I was tall enough to pull them off.

    Someone said this cardigan may be a OS fits all piece, I ain't sure. You should get it, it's a very good non runway piece.
     
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  3. the shah

    the shah Senior member

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    LOL so you grew in the last few months !?

    i did try the sz3 in conduit as well, it's available in a few places still but i am hesitant. i need less black stuff ! which is why am awaiting fall (if i recall there's more color this fall?) and next spring drops :drool:

    anyway, i paired the hakamas with a white tee (uniqlo :eek:) and a Y's jacket it was pretty nice, the jacket was ramie so still light-weight. i don't have any pics but it seemed fine, i kept staring at my reflection because the novelty hadn't worn off hehe
    went to St John's Bread & Wine decked in Yohji !
     
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  4. davidlee388

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    You may have mistaken me for someone else...I wish I was 5"10! Then again I would have plunged into bankruptcy a lot sooner if I can wear most things size 3 [​IMG]
     
  5. the shah

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    hahaha i misread your post as stating that you weren't tall enough then and are now tall enough to wear the hakamas woops !

    also, another sighting from womens ss12 show -- she's from the paris store ! and this one is unmistakable :p

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    pickpackpockpuck Senior member

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    Did anyone happen to notice this piece Valter put up for sale and promptly decided to keep? :drool:

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  7. davidlee388

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    SS11 vest I think. The flora print under the collar gives it away.
     
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    pickpackpockpuck Senior member

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    Yes, exactly. So goood. You could probably thrown it on easily over just about anything and make your whole look instantly better.
     
  9. Ivwri

    Ivwri Senior member

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    I just missed out on picking that up off of Yoox a while back when they had it in a size 4 :(. Sent the money across to my bro since I can't buy anything off yoox myself and by the time he got it it was gone.

    Very great piece. They still have a size 3 up for grabs on yoox if anyone is interested. I think it is yoox UK USA.
     
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    The internet has become over-saturated with images and information. We have an incredible amount of information at our fingertips, but it can be hard to process and keep up. I think people are so used to seeing livestreams and photos of collection after collection at show time that they become desensitized. There is only so much you can take in, and after that, instead of waiting a while before assessing a collection and trying to understand it, people simply rely on a gut reaction and either applaud or reject. Not knowing how you feel about something, when the industry pushes new moment upon new moment, is a difficult reality, because fashion is necessarily of the moment. I think people can often be rushed to a decision because of that. And once you are able to label something - it's beautiful, it's trashy, it's conservative, it's avant-garde; I think most people stop caring. I often get annoyed when people label something as "avant-garde", because it can often be used in a way by journalists or commentators to say "I don't understand it, but it's avant-garde, so I don't need to". Then again, I think that applies to lots of labels and discussions about collections. People make up their minds too quickly, and just seem to want to rush to a decision of whether they liked it or not, and then they can move on to the next season.

    And I think there will always be that disconnect between image and garment. Fashion can be represented by words, by photography, by film, by a live model, but nothing compares to wearing it. It is like hearing about food, or seeing food, without ever tasting it. Clothing has to be worn to be understood. I think discussing aesthetics is possible without trying something on, but even then your understanding will never be quite complete. It sounds weird but I always feel sad I don't have the body to be able to try on women's clothing, just because I think I would understand it better if I could. As it is I can judge it by looks, rather than by feel. But then I guess you can hardly try on every menswear garment you like the look of, let alone then trying on all womenswear, so it is something you have to accept.


    I love details like this, it makes the clothing so much more fun to wear. It's like a little secret between you and the designer.
     
  11. Ivwri

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    I really love those hidden details Yohji throws into his clothing from time to time. Like syed said, it's like a secret between the wearer and the designer and it is also a reward in a way for really looking at the clothing. Like how you might own something for a while and then suddenly realize that you can fold or button something a particular way or you discover a hidden pocket or some beautiful lining. It can make the item of clothing seem new again upon a discovery like that and make it have even more value to you, like you now know it inside and out.

    On a random note, how often do you guys take your stuff to the dry cleaners and/or hand wash (for stuff like shirts)?
     
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    Yeah I really could use some money for the A/W2012 pieces, but decided I just can't part with this. Works well even though it is size 2 instead of my usual size 3.

    By the way, I was told that the tapestry pattern in the waistcoat I have and the suit below is a replica of a tapestry in Versailles.

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  13. the shah

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    how do you wear it ? i just saw it in the ss11 show but i think the color is too muted for me :eek:

    btw when did Messi start doing Yohji shows :p
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    Parker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    [​IMG] jellyfish pants today. trying with a fitted blazer and tucked dress shirt inspired by latest spring looks. ehh? uu cotton treated blazer mtm band collar shirt yyph wool hakamas yyph canvas sneakers beverage picture for mr. shah, yunnan supreme golden snail:
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  15. the shah

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    i love these shades you're playing with here ! and am wishing even more the yohjis had fit me hehe
    that uu is so light, i just felt i was in between sizes so didn't keep.

    i've never had such a beverage, but if you're inviting me over for what looks to be tea and photography i'm never one to turn you down. great pic !
     
  16. dantebykiko

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    "Yamamoto found inspiration in the V&A textile collection, particularly from an 1850s English cotton chintz, False Principles No.10-Hollyhock, and a furnishing fabric by John James Audubon, The Birds of America. Further inspiration came from Edwardian textiles, wallpaper and embroidery found within the V&A."
     
  17. davidlee388

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    This AW12 is available on Hervia:-
    http://www.hervia.com/mens-c2/clothing-c79/knitwear-c17/knitted-sleeveless-sweater-black-p7250
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    What is the deal with the YY signature? I know Yohji liked to put text, phrases on his clothing as a sense of humour or expressing an opinion and feelong to his audience but this is just branding, period. I will happily buy this because I like the fabric, the style and fit. The addition of that signature will not increase the appeal to me, in fact it puts me right off. It's no different to a EA logo on an Emporio Armani or a D&G logo on a Dolce & Gabbana. Anyone tells me anything different apart from commercialism..... I am saddened [​IMG]
     
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  18. syed

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    ^ I saw that as well. The new backing do seem keen to push him forward and out into the public eye more and more, so maybe this part of the cost? Y-3 has branding all over, but I think it's understandable from the Adidas/sportswear background, that is part of the game, but here it does feel superfluous. Every other brand does it, but...I dunno, it's Yohji...it doesn't feel right.

    And Parker that silhouette is lovely. Those trousers must be so fun to walk in :happy:
     
  19. dantebykiko

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    If you like it buy it and sharpie the logo or run white stitching across. Simple. There its not reason this kind of product not to be produced, especially when you have whole shop full of unique garments. You can't compare armani or dg with yohji. The balance between logo and showpieces products its huge.
     
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    I agree with you, it wouldn't stop me buying it. It seems an odd decision is all. Heck I'm still annoyed I never bought one of the baseball t-shirts the V&A had for the exhibition, and that had Yohji plastered over the front huuuuuge :rotflmao: Better than buying an exhibition poster!
     

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