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Yohji, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The Looser Fit (Yohji Yamamoto Thread)

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Ivwri, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. Parker

    Parker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The older CdG stuff seems to blend better with Yohji. Here are a few images from past collections that I think have the same spirit. In fact, you can see the direct influence they've had on each other.
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    Either way can work, but I think there should be a certain level of disheveledness. Things shouldn't be so perfect. Just for visual interest, I like to have either a little space between shoe and hem or a nice big break of drapey fabric. What is even more key to me is the lack of a crease. It makes the look less polished, less like a business suit and more casual, relaxed.
     
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  2. Ivwri

    Ivwri Senior member

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    Those CdG photos are very cool. I always look out for older CdG pieces whenever I browse eBay or more rarely, Y! Japan for Yohji stuff. I never see the cool stuff like that though.
     
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    that abstract sweater is awesome. jil blob-esque. ...well cdg did it first apparently :eek:
     
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    dantebykiko Senior member

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    There's a seller in Australia that always seems to have some very interesting older CDG pieces for sale:
    dot.comme

    Thanks for all the very fine fits, and commentary. Lots of inspiration.
     
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    dantebykiko Senior member

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    yeah, saw him. he had and couple of nice y's jackets on very good prices.
     
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    Thought I would add that all the sales associates for YY here in Tokyo are wearing all the cool (read: sold-out) hakama pants and covers. So cool. Tried on the black linen one at Aoyama and it was lovely. Heck, it was linen so it would be an insane mess once it gets out of my suitcase! They were sold out of all other fabrics so.... I passed -- depressed :( It would have gone great with my outfit that day... [​IMG] hakama steeze everywhere :) [​IMG] [​IMG] Peace. [​IMG]
     
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    Neofinitia, your pictures all make me depressed because I can't experience all these locations :(
     
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    Some seriously good fits in the last few pages :slayer: Thought I'd throw one in as well.

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    Layered and asymmetrical collar shirt from SS11 (I think it's the same one davidlee388 posted with his AW05 blazer). The trousers are a light cotton from Coming Soon. The blazer is CdG, made in an incredibly lightweight wool from SS98. I definitely think older Comme works better with Yohji if you can find it. The tailoring tended to be looser and the fabrics were not as...new(?) feeling as a lot of the pieces now. Even the washed polyesters and boiled wools nowadays feel like they need to be broken in by the wearer.
     
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    Some seriously nice fits from everyone, thought I'd throw one in as well :embar:

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    The shirt is a layered collar, half oxford from SS11 (the same one davidlee388 posted with his AW05 blazer I think). The trousers are a light cotton from Coming Soon. The blazer is a super lightweight wool from Comme SS98. I definitely think older Comme works well with Yohji, the tailoring was looser and the general silhouettes were far more relaxed. And I also think the older Comme fabrics didn't feel as...new(?). Whenever I try on pieces from the newer collections it feels a touch too pristine, like it needs breaking in. Yohji never feels that way - it just feels natural.
     
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    Ivwri Senior member

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    Gave a presentation today -


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    Pants are from Spring/Summer 2000. They are high waisted pants with a deep drop crotch in wool gabardine. Picked them up from wire and very glad I did. SS00 is still one of my favorite collections so I'm always happy to pick up pieces from it.

    The gabardine as always is fantastic and it still looks like I just bought it brand new yesterday. They have cinches at the side like the AW11 pants I have (although I think the cinches work better in that more recent iteration) and can be worn higher or lower depending on preference as they also have belt loops. Beautiful in motion and go with everything in my wardrobe. They are also not tapered at the bottom so they gave me more versatility when I want to have the hem of my pants covering a bit more of the shoes.
     
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    Ivwri Senior member

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    Speaking of Rei and Yohji, I stumbled across this conversation over on thefashionspot a while back and thought I would post it here in light of recent discussions.

     
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    Rei has indeed modernized, but I wonder to what cost. The name 'Comme des Garçons' means so many things to so many different people. To your average person on the street they know it through Play or fragrances - your rappers and celebrities wear Play and all anyone ever remembers is a heart logo. It has become the logo of CdG for many people. The fragrances have a life of their own within fragrance communities and the idea of it being a 'niche' line propels the mystique around it. But then you go see all the thousands of collaborations CdG undertake - from The SImpsons, to Speedo, to the Beatles, to H&M (even though Rei admits this was a mistake). So many collabs and selling the Comme des Garçons name. Yes the products are still notable CdG, but I do wonder as to what extent. Thankfully the house is rebellious to the end though, so the mainline still caters to the Rei fans, but in a way the all the stuff on the side I usually ignore seems to be the price of that freedom.

    Yohji sticks to his guns, and that is what makes his work so attractive to me. People will gravitate towards him because they see something that speaks to them. Whether old or young, short or tall, fat or thin, Yohji has some of the most diverse fan bases out there. Admittedly this is also the case with Comme, and like them Yohji also is not exactly adverse to collaborations, but his stubbornness (and I don't mean that in a bad way) to do things according to his philosophy shows that he stands for something. Too many designers seem to lose their identities to market pressures, their work being dictated by the flow of fashion, and their very personalities being neatly packaged and sold. I hope he does carry on rocking out to his own tune. The people will still come.

    (I tried posting a fit earlier but apparently it is 'awaiting moderation'...hopefully it posts some time soon, otherwise I'll put it up again tomorrow).
     
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    Someone has never heard of Y-3 huh? Pretty much every designer has a diffusion line or collabs to get paid. Best to just ignore it and buy what you like.
     
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