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Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. Griffyndor

    Griffyndor Distinguished Member

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    It isn't a pure overcoating book. The fabric in the picture is 330 grams (about 10.5 ounces).
     


  2. Griffyndor

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    Badsha - On jodek's website, search under Drapers rather than cacioppolli. I bet it is the one listed as fabric number 8356 - green donegal from the salt & pepper/covercoat book in 10.5 ounces because mine is 8352.
     
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  3. badsha

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    Thank you, greatly appreciated. Sounds like it could be the one.
     


  4. Michael Ay329

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    All the Greek tailors I use make lined jackets...as was the Navy Mistral
     


  5. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored

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    Just had a fitting with a Harrison's 74150. It is like a fresco, but tighter weave. I love it. Frank said it was a joy to work with.
     


  6. Concordia

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    Which collection is that from?
     


  7. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored

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    No idea. It is pretty heavy at 15oz though.
     


  8. johanm

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    It's a midnight blue hopsack from the P&B Universal book. Have the book in front of me, it's one of the densest hopsacks I've seen.
     
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  9. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored

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    Well, it's awesome. I'll pick it up next week and post some pictures.
     


  10. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored

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    Sator on cutter and tailor is calling it a barathea. This seems fuzzier than most barathea's I have handled, but seems tighter than most hopsacks I have handled.
     
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  11. Grammaton Cleric

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    Barathea is not fuzzy at all. Most formal cloths (i.e. suitable for black tie) are baratheas.
     


  12. patrickBOOTH

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    That's what I thought too. I would never say this was a black tie cloth like he alludes to. It was from a while ago, so maybe the book has changed despite the number being the same? I opted for this midnight because it doesn't seem midnight to my eye, the navy looked slightly purplish to me and this just seemed navy.
     
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  13. marcodalondra

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    Heavy weight Baratheas can be fuzzy, most of the heavier types on Lesser book are indeed fuzzy. Barathea is a ribbed twill on the face side and a flat diamond pattern on the inside weave, and originally used as a mourning fabric
     


  14. johanm

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    Below is the 74150 in my P&B Universal book. I guess I can't tell the difference between a heavy hopsack and a barathea.

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  15. marcodalondra

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    This looks like the underside of a barathea wave, the other side is the face, and is a ribbed twill with a slightly less cross rib. Hopsack is a clear basket wave.
     


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