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RIP Bébel


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(Rollneck check. Belt check. Flares check. Loafers check.)



Fashion wise, I can't tell you anything of the sixties, the New Wave or his look in Breathless because Belmondo is inextricably linked in my mind to big burly leather bombers (Chapal?) paired with flared jeans or dress trousers and the occasional fat lapels and heavy patterns tailoring (Smalto) that he wears in his movies of the turn of the 80s. There's an unsalvageable excess to it. And the movies around that time are also getting sillier, his hair is graying, he's over fifty, he's jumping from roofs and hanging from flying helicopters, he makes dad jokes before punching people... And you've got to embrace it all, it's always a bit exaggerated, never totally serious. Much of what made Belmondo cool was in that carefree distance, the knowing smirk, it's all a big joke and the punchline is coming.


Maybe the last icon of a bygone French cinema or even pop culture...(Delon while better known internationally feels like a more distant and divisive figure). Back when TV was still a thing, the ever recurring broadcasts of his 70s/80s actioners pretty much cemented his place in popular culture and across multiple generations as a sort of cross between Steve McQueen/Charles Bronson/Jackie Chan and John McClane's levity all rolled into one. But also with added arthouse cred from his work with serious directors (Melville, Godard, Truffaut, Resnais, Verneuil, Malle etc).


The most famous film from that bunch is probably The Professional (1981) which is a sort of proto-Bourne revenge flick with some geopolitical flourishes to ground things and a very famous Ennio Morricone soundtrack (good thing you can generally count on Morricone even when the films start sucking later on...)


The slightly older Peur sur la Ville (poster^) is a stunt-heavy Dirty Harry-like eurogiallo thing taking place in chilly 1970s Paris. It's directed by Henri Verneuil who has made several great films with Belmondo and is no slouch himself (I... as in Icarus with Yves Montand is a must watch). Also with a Morricone soundtrack.


Ridiculously long trailer w/ music





I'll be honest, quite a bit of his output from that period has aged badly if you're not watching it through the lenses of nostalgia (a most potent drug) and it gets progressively worse as you venture into the 80s... The films are mostly dated vehicles for Belmondo's middleaged-dude-doing-his-own-stunts-and-cracking-jokes shtick.


Anyway, nostalgia aside Belmondo extensive filmography is pretty diverse and has some interesting stuff across all genres. Here's a few things well worth a watch off the top of my head


- Le Doulos (Melville, 1962) - neo-noir, everyone plotting against everyone, great twisty fun

- Léon Morin, Priest (Melville, 1961) - Melville's hot priest film

- Is Paris Burning? - (Clément, 1966) - absolutely stacked cast

- Pierrot le Fou (Godard, 1965) - I'll take this over Breathless

- La Sirène du Mississippi (Truffaut, 1969) - Truffaut's strange Hitchcock homage/pastiche, it works

- The Burglars (Verneuil, 1971) - pretty minor but solid 70s euro cops and robbers, Ennio Morricone again

- Stavisnky (Resnais, 1974) - not a great Resnais but it's one those 70s film with a 20s/30s setting (almost a genre in itself) so there's lots of nice tailoring and generous lapels; all made by Francesco Smalto

- The Body of my Enemy (Verneuil, 1976) - a riff on the Count of Monte Cristo, quintessentially 70s, music, slowmos, it's all there...

- Le Magnifique (Broca, 1973) - sylish James Bond spoof, helicopter stunts, 70s white suits, colored ties etc
 

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I grew up watching Le Professionnel (I think I cried at the end the first couple times), Le Magnifique or L'Homme de Rio every time they'd be on TV. Un singe en hiver with Gabin is great and I also have a soft spot for Lelouch's Les Miserables and Belmondo in it (I have a soft spot for Lelouch in general).

But it is funny that it was the same guy anchoring the Nouvelle Vague with Godard in not one but two masterpieces, that would later become a bit of a stunt-obsessed clown. Imagine James Dean doing Steven Seagal types of movies twenty years after Giant...
 

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and whose lobbying has formed the model for climate change denial and much else that's destructive today
I just remarked on this to my wife over the weekend, that you can draw a straight line from the disinformation campaigns developed by the tobacco industry to COVID and global warming denial - the term "climate change" itself is a fossil fuel industry term designed to soften the psychological impact.

Truly stunning to think how many deaths can be attributed to the relatively small number of [white men] who were behind that originally.
 

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@sinnedkMichael K. Williams :( what a loss.
Watched Hap and Leonard recently, he was great as always


I was looking at some JPB vids on youtube earlier and was surprised by the amount of comments in Russian, seems like his 70s/80s was pretty popular

@gdl203 For real, I grew up with the Royal Canin tv ad and the les Nuls subsequent spoof and the ending of Le Professionnel still worked (also a testament to Morricone's talent).

What are your Lelouch recs ? I've seen a couple a long time ago, probably not at the right time, and sort of closed the book on him.

James Dean stunt career was cut short in a way...

Alain Delon's career trajectory is pretty wild too. Stars in Visconti and Antonioni's monuments of cinema then in the 80s try to stay relevant and keep up with Belmondo (and the new action movies trend) and starts making a string of increasingly stupid movies with gratuitous workout and training sequences to show everyone he still got it. Then makes a film with Godard (with lots of tasteful early 90s fashion and a great loose DB suit)

To his credit, Delon made a bunch of completely batshit exploitation movies in the 70s
 
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Re Lelouch : Un Homme et une Femme, La Bonne Année, Les Uns et les Autres (which is where the average French public started finding his cinema weird - it has the vibe of Altman and a little PTA. I'm convinced that Tarantino was infuenced by his stuff), Les Misérables. And his comédies were pretty funny in the 70s (Tout ça pour ça, L'aventure c'est l'aventure for ultra lowbrow).

A lot of cinephiles turn their noses to his flourished style and his never ending twirling camera works, and the general public finds his stuff too weird. It's a miracle he's kept making films.

Like a lot of stuff like that that's quite stylized, you may end up finding charming or annoying.

Edit: oh and Le Voyou !
 
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Nobody's watching, time for another film post.
Taipei Story (Edward Yang, 1985), gorgeous slice of life about in-between people and in-between times. Also with some very tasteful in-between fashion (with genuine casual tailoring extract in it)

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RIP Bébel


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(Rollneck check. Belt check. Flares check. Loafers check.)



Fashion wise, I can't tell you anything of the sixties, the New Wave or his look in Breathless because Belmondo is inextricably linked in my mind to big burly leather bombers (Chapal?) paired with flared jeans or dress trousers and the occasional fat lapels and heavy patterns tailoring (Smalto) that he wears in his movies of the turn of the 80s. There's an unsalvageable excess to it. And the movies around that time are also getting sillier, his hair is graying, he's over fifty, he's jumping from roofs and hanging from flying helicopters, he makes dad jokes before punching people... And you've got to embrace it all, it's always a bit exaggerated, never totally serious. Much of what made Belmondo cool was in that carefree distance, the knowing smirk, it's all a big joke and the punchline is coming.


Maybe the last icon of a bygone French cinema or even pop culture...(Delon while better known internationally feels like a more distant and divisive figure). Back when TV was still a thing, the ever recurring broadcasts of his 70s/80s actioners pretty much cemented his place in popular culture and across multiple generations as a sort of cross between Steve McQueen/Charles Bronson/Jackie Chan and John McClane's levity all rolled into one. But also with added arthouse cred from his work with serious directors (Melville, Godard, Truffaut, Resnais, Verneuil, Malle etc).


The most famous film from that bunch is probably The Professional (1981) which is a sort of proto-Bourne revenge flick with some geopolitical flourishes to ground things and a very famous Ennio Morricone soundtrack (good thing you can generally count on Morricone even when the films start sucking later on...)


The slightly older Peur sur la Ville (poster^) is a stunt-heavy Dirty Harry-like eurogiallo thing taking place in chilly 1970s Paris. It's directed by Henri Verneuil who has made several great films with Belmondo and is no slouch himself (I... as in Icarus with Yves Montand is a must watch). Also with a Morricone soundtrack.


Ridiculously long trailer w/ music





I'll be honest, quite a bit of his output from that period has aged badly if you're not watching it through the lenses of nostalgia (a most potent drug) and it gets progressively worse as you venture into the 80s... The films are mostly dated vehicles for Belmondo's middleaged-dude-doing-his-own-stunts-and-cracking-jokes shtick.


Anyway, nostalgia aside Belmondo extensive filmography is pretty diverse and has some interesting stuff across all genres. Here's a few things well worth a watch off the top of my head


- Le Doulos (Melville, 1962) - neo-noir, everyone plotting against everyone, great twisty fun

- Léon Morin, Priest (Melville, 1961) - Melville's hot priest film

- Is Paris Burning? - (Clément, 1966) - absolutely stacked cast

- Pierrot le Fou (Godard, 1965) - I'll take this over Breathless

- La Sirène du Mississippi (Truffaut, 1969) - Truffaut's strange Hitchcock homage/pastiche, it works

- The Burglars (Verneuil, 1971) - pretty minor but solid 70s euro cops and robbers, Ennio Morricone again

- Stavisnky (Resnais, 1974) - not a great Resnais but it's one those 70s film with a 20s/30s setting (almost a genre in itself) so there's lots of nice tailoring and generous lapels; all made by Francesco Smalto

- The Body of my Enemy (Verneuil, 1976) - a riff on the Count of Monte Cristo, quintessentially 70s, music, slowmos, it's all there...

- Le Magnifique (Broca, 1973) - sylish James Bond spoof, helicopter stunts, 70s white suits, colored ties etc

My favorite Delon movie on looks alone


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@sipang yep I was super bummed. I was happy to see MKW get success after wire and start appearing in films even the small roles it was nice to see him become successful.

I recall seeing a lot of movies growing up with adriano celentano, Delon, Belmando, back in Ukraine (80s) there was a lot of Italian movies, also we had the one VCR on the block LOL
 

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Awesome, thanks! Do they fit TTS?

You just have to look for measurements. A lot of times they're smaller than the tagged sizes, due to shrinking or alterations over the years. Other times they'll be TTS. Good luck!
 

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