Neckties: A Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Sep 15, 2015.

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  1. white collar

    white collar Senior member

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    Two of my favorites as well, my style inspiration comes from Neal Caffrey, the main character of the the show White Collar. I don't mean to say that I never wear wider ties, I own quite a lot, I just was curious as to everyones thoughts.
     
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    I was going through The Archives and discovered I do have one micro herringbone tie. Forest green wool. Breaking my own rule.
     
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    You have Archives. VictorSF has a dacha.
     
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    Tie and lapel width are about the most fashion-sensitive parameters of men's tailored clothing. The trend for skinny everything with tight, high-buttoning jackets crested around 2008-2011. Skinny ties have consequently drifted downmarket.

    Some wardrobe/image consultants (hello, Chris Hardwick) remain enamoured of the look. It seems that one of them works on White Collar.

    Back when I was an occasional lurker here (I'd guess 2004-2005ish), I remember a poster whose signature was "the king of the 2-inch tie." You'd be hard-presses to get anyone here to describe themselves that way these days. Fat ties/lapels are having a moment right now. Skinny ties will be back at some point.

    These cycles bore me. I don't have much truck with fashion.
     
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    I may be wrong but I believe it was "The King of the 3 inch ties" and the gentleman was Kent Wang - who has gone on to create a really cool clothing based business.

    I am very impressed with what he has done.

    I agree with you about fashion trends I always advise to look at your body size (which doesn't usually change much) when thinking about tie widths not tie lapels.
     
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    Many good opinions, I try to stay away from fashion trends as well, classic menswear is where its at. I don't think 3 inch ties will ever go out of style.
     
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    Kent was (is? :confused:) King of the 3 Inch Tie. A number of years ago I gifted a bunch of narrower ties to him and shared a nice Lebanese shawarma lunch :drool:.
     
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    Sam Hober Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I have not heard of any palace revolts so I assume that he still holds his title of King of the 3 inch ties, and will do so for a long time...
     
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    I would venture to suggest that it's also age-related.

    I have a photo of myself in my mid-twenties, wearing a very nice (but also inexpensive) textured suit with skinny lapels, matched with a fairly thin tie and, if memory serves correctly, a tie pin. This was around 1987 I guess - back then, we were in the throes of a "young men in suits" craze featuring 60s-nostalgia stylistic flourishes.

    I look at that photo now (I have it somewhere as a print - should really scan it and post it here) and think, well, I wouldn't wear that shit now, but back then, I was doing OK in the menswear department.

    As I get older, I realise that I simply can't afford to follow ephemeral fashions any more. I would look silly. So I've been moving away from such things and towards a relatively timeless middle ground. This board has helped me enormously, given its tendency to lend imprimatur to enduring notions of taste and balance.

    8-9cm tie widths are a good example of that middle ground, as are the jacket lapels which match such dimensions. Not as wide and extroverted as those of the early 70s, yet not as skinny as the early 60s. Boring and soporific to some. Enduring good taste to others. Young guys can get away with extremes and they can look great in the classics too. At my age I feel it's prudent to gravitate more to the classics.
     
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    Interesting discussion. I have a slim build but work in a conservative field so almost all my ties are 3 inches. Just my opinion, but I feel like this is a sweet spot and will never be too conspicuous or go totally out of style. If I had a larger build I think the same would apply for a 3.25 inch tie.
     
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    Very well put. I think you summarized the discussion perfectly.
     
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    It was Kent Wang, was it? Funny, since I now own one of his (now slightly wider) ties. I'm also long overdue for one of yours. I'll have to do something about that.
     
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    Note to self: must. kop. Hober. one. day.
     
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    How you people haven't purchased from David is a mystery to me. It truly is. No hyperbole. It is mysterious.

    Also. Cox. Scan and post that picture!!!!!
     

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