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Ivyskin89

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It's not a false equivalence whatsoever, you are literally judging a group of people, just like skinheads as a group were unfairly labelled as racists, are all Muslims terrorists and do all Jews like money too?.

Also, socialism and communism are not the same thing, perhaps you should look into these things before spouting such rubbish, and not into a McCarthy era school textbook.

In the past, i have had communist leanings, but am i ashamed, no, because why should i be ashamed? why should anyone?. Also ''wrong livelihood'' is orwellian, it is not me saying such things, it is you.

If you had seen some of the things i have in the working class area i live, such as drug addiction, dealers who prey on them, violent crime etc, you wouldn't believe the police and other public services were not needed, is the fire service evil too?

The world and the society we live in is not a nice place and some things are necessary, if you like it or not.
Centralized authority forcing the collective to share everything, at the very least public services. Centralized authority having more rights over the rest of the society. I mean really socialism is communism is fascism is democracy yada yada yada. Although police do wear costumes such as do skinheads, police work is predicated on the erroneous belief in authority. So it is essentially a cultish, religious gang if you will.
I should make myself more clear, cops are not the only ones that I believe are practicing this erroneous belief system. Anyone who is using the erroneous belief in authority to coerce non-violent people is in the wrong. if you say wrong livelihood is orwellian are you going to tell me someone who rapes for a living is in right livelihood or neutral livelihood? I'm not saying that that's what all police do I'm just using it as an example.
You're acting as if the words wrong livelihood is an offensive term, to discriminatory and shouldn't be used to describe anyone's occupation. Almost as if it's not PC in your book and shouldn't be used. So I'll ask you again who's the real Orwellian here? This is an inversion, classic orwellian doublespeak at its finest on your part.

There's nothing wrong with, militias, private security, and privatized fire departments.
 

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Centralized authority forcing the collective to share everything, at the very least public services. Centralized authority having more rights over the rest of the society. I mean really socialism is communism is fascism is democracy yada yada yada.

You are continuing to prove you have no idea what you are talking about, again communism and socialism are not interchangeable words and they are not the same thing, Please for your own good look up what these two things are for ***** sake, also, just because states like the soviet union called themselves socialist or communist does not mean they are.

Skinheads were judged by the group by wider society that they were a bunch of racist thugs. Just like you are saying all police are corrupt. it is just fundamentally wrong and untrue. You cannot judge an whole group, not all communists or socialists worship Stalin and Mao and many times disagree among themselves like any group.

Anyone who knows me knows that i am not politically correct, i am not interested in policing language. It was an observation, and in my view it came across as orwellian.

I'm thankful we don't have armed militias in the UK and that kids don't get there brains blown out in schools on a weekly basis, also that i don't have to pay if there is a fire.
 

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The anarcho-libertarian thing doesn't really exist as a political viewpoint in Europe so it might come across as a bit strange.

Sadly, we've become familiar with it through the interwebs. Private property, but no state - a rich man's utopia. Private militias to keep the undesirables off one's precious lawn, however. Dream on.
 

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Sadly, we've become familiar with it through the interwebs. Private property, but no state - a rich man's utopia. Private militias to keep the undesirables off one's precious lawn, however. Dream on.

Yep, utopia for the rich, tyranny for the poor and working class. Sounds like complete hell.
 

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A right is an action that does not cause harm to another sentient being, a wrong is an action that causes harm to another sentient being. Therefore having a livelihood that is based on the requirement that one enforces laws that turn otherwise peaceful people into criminals and then extorts them with the threat of being thrown in a cage, with the threat of being killed if one does not comply, is a wrong livelihood. My friend who is a cop told me that when they have the body cam on they have no choice but to enforce laws that even they themselves consider unjust, or they risk losing their job. Would you do something you consider unjust for money? If you would what does that make you? You're the one who's advocating for a socialist ie communist system, so who's really orwellian here? Hitler might have called what he was advocating a necessary evil and so would have Stalin or Mao. There's no such thing as a necessary evil. There's just evil and good. You can choose to support evil or you can choose to support good.

You can stomp your foot all you want about other people's selfishness as an excuse to partake in an inherently evil system or you can decide to advocate for something better.
Whilst our system isnae the best , it is still better than many others .
Its business as usual during renovations.
I'm not affiliated to any political party and one of the great things about this thread is politics is mostly kept out of it.
 

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MA-1s or sheepskins this winter? With the general election, Brexit and all that, I'd say the times call for a more militant MA1 look, whatever side you may take on these questions. Fashion must reflect the mood that's in the air.
 

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We might even want to add a survivalist touch to the look, given the uncertainty of it all. Camo M65 anyone?
 

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MA-1s or sheepskins this winter? With the general election, Brexit and all that, I'd say the times call for a more militant MA1 look, whatever side you may take on these questions. Fashion must reflect the mood that's in the air.
Perhaps a bit of both Bela .
Here it seems like it went straight from Harrington weather directly to sheepskin , missing out MA-1 weather.
I am about to go out now wearing a wool Baracuta, see how that works. .
 

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Maybe a camo suit for the mods.
death in june.jpg
 

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You are continuing to prove you have no idea what you are talking about, again communism and socialism are not interchangeable words and they are not the same thing, Please for your own good look up what these two things are for ***** sake, also, just because states like the soviet union called themselves socialist or communist does not mean they are.

Skinheads were judged by the group by wider society that they were a bunch of racist thugs. Just like you are saying all police are corrupt. it is just fundamentally wrong and untrue. You cannot judge an whole group, not all communists or socialists worship Stalin and Mao and many times disagree among themselves like any group.

Anyone who knows me knows that i am not politically correct, i am not interested in policing language. It was an observation, and in my view it came across as orwellian.

I'm thankful we don't have armed militias in the UK and that kids don't get there brains blown out in schools on a weekly basis, also that i don't have to pay if there is a fire.
I am going to let you have the last word here and end it as you continue to be very intellectually dishonest, so we'll end up going around in circles. I want to be clear I have no I'll feelings towards you, just your belief system. I hope that if I do ever make it over there or you here, we can be friends and laugh about our differences and discuss clothing and music over some green juice, or a probably a beer in your case.
 

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Sadly, we've become familiar with it through the interwebs. Private property, but no state - a rich man's utopia. Private militias to keep the undesirables off one's precious lawn, however. Dream on.

I'm all for sharing space and I operate under the non aggression principal balanced with the principal of self defense. We just got to reach the tipping point first.
I recommend studying the Essene tribe of Israel to see what is possible with the right mindset.

I say MA-1. M-51 fishtail shell to use on rainy days
 

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