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[Ich_Dien]



This went by unanswered. Thoughts/opinions?

They're really awful, sorry.

 

[clarksdb]



That's pretty much the exact square-bicycle-toe shoe that SF hates. Almost no one in real life would blink at them, but they get no love among the SF crowd.
Personally: they're ugly.

I understand they're ugly because mainly of the square toe. However can someone tell me why they are considered ugly while at same time square toes from SF brands are loved? Is it only because the square in the cheap shoes is much wider or what?

 

[cptjeff]



I understand they're ugly because mainly of the square toe. However can someone tell me why they are considered ugly while at same time square toes from SF brands are loved? Is it only because the square in the cheap shoes is much wider or what?

SF Brands don't make square toes. Many make chisel toes, which have a squared end, but a much narrower front that gives them a much more distinct and sleek shape. Hence the hate, I think. Square toed shoes lack any real thought in their design- they lack texture, like a brogued wingtip might have, the lack the grace and flow that a nice last can create- in fact, they actively resist grace and flow. They're just fat and clunky, but without the charm or details that make some other less sleek styles loved.

By the way, this is a chisel toe. This is good:

 

[clarksdb]



SF Brands don't make square toes. Many make chisel toes, which have a squared end, but a much narrower front that gives them a much more distinct and sleek shape. Hence the hate, I think. Square toed shoes lack any realy thought in their design- they lack texture, like a brogued wingtip might have, the lack the grace and flow that a nice last can create- in fact, they actively resist grace and flow. They're just fat and clunky, but without the charm or details that make some other less sleek styles loved.
By the way, this is a chisel toe. This is good:

Thanks for that info, in no way do I endorse square end but I just never understood why SF brands with a square-ish finish were accepted. So that really helps explain that.

 

[aravenel]



They're really awful, sorry.

+1, theyre awful. Get rid of them.

 

[GH2M43]

Instead of these

You might like these better

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HENDERSON-B..._s_Shoes&var=520119252985&hash=item337d42102b

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HENDERSON-B..._s_Shoes&var=520119252974&hash=item337d421015

I like those! Any following the same form factor without wingtip? maybe in brown? finding that perfect shoe is hard, and also subjective, hahaha

what does goodlensboy mean? do you shoot?

 

[ellsbebc]

i want to help my wife rock her family secret santa gift exchange, so i want to buy a (used) suit for her person. he's 6'2" and about 200-220 pounds or so, definitely on the pudgy side. his wife measured him, do these measurements look about right? generally, what size would he be based on these measurements? i'm guessing about a 43 R/L, is that correct? if his chest is 43" how big should the chest measurement on a jacket be?
chest 43
overarm 52
waist 40
jacket length: 30
sleeve length: 26
pant length: 43 (measured how?)
inseam: 31.5
neck: 17
(sorry if this is stupid, i've never bought clothes for anyone else before)

- I have a 42" chest. Some 21" p2p fit me; however, I favor a 22" p2p generally. It all depends on the cut of the jacket.
- The jacket length concerns me. At 6'1", I typically wear a 31" BOC but my BB Fitzgerald jacket is 30.5" and still covers my entire ass (barely).
- The pant length may very well may be the outseam measurement
- I suggest to obtain a shoulder measurement also. That and the chest are the key parts to a jacket that only a very skilled tailor can alter, and we are talking $$$

 

[Telnet7]

what do you guys think about this jacket?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290824609756?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

 

[ellsbebc]

what do you guys think about this jacket?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290824609756?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Do your due diligence as a buyer. There appears to be a small moth hole on the left sleeve (pictured)

 

[newbie369]

Thank you all for the input. I think it is quite clear what I should be doing with them

I was looking at Johnson & Murphy shoes and some of them look like square toed shoes to me, yet the reviews on them are quite positive (ex. Dobson). Is the problem with square the fact that not enough effort is put into the quality and detail of the shoe, rather than the shape itself? http://www.johnstonmurphy.com/category_listing.aspx?c=1215

 

[12345Michael54321]



Is the problem with square the fact that not enough effort is put into the quality and detail of the shoe, rather than the shape itself?

In a nutshell, the shoes in question are not attractive in design. And they are almost certainly made of inferior grade leather. And not unlikely employ sub-standard construction.

This combination of negatives means they probably won't garner too much positive feedback from folks here on SF. Although, as has been noted, you could likely wear them in the real world without anyone taking much notice of them, one way or the other.

 

[newbie369]

If I recall correctly, I purchased the shoes at the Bay for approximately $70. I think that really helps emphasize the factors you listed.

Are there any shoes that are decent in quality and can be shipped to Canada for a reasonable price? An "entry level" oxford perhaps?

 

[clarksdb]



If I recall correctly, I purchased the shoes at the Bay for approximately $70. I think that really helps emphasize the factors you listed.

Are there any shoes that are decent in quality and can be shipped to Canada for a reasonable price? An "entry level" oxford perhaps?

Allen Edmonds Shoe Bank. They ship to Canada for $25 per pair. Only order 1 pair at a time or you will be charged taxes. Up your budget just a bit and you can get a pair for about $170.

Go to Harry Rosen and try on a few AE shoes to see how they fit and what size you are. Don't buy from them though as they sell for $400 with tax and all.

 

[gonadwarrior]

Hi everyone
I've been perusing this forum for a few months now. Just wanted to ask a question bc I'm stumped

I'm looking for a versatile brown shoe. Something I can wear with a navy suit, but would also work with dark denim
$200-250 limit

What would you guys recommend?

The only thing that seems like it could work are the Loake Pimlico in brown leather


Thanks!

 

[suits123]



Hi everyone
I've been perusing this forum for a few months now. Just wanted to ask a question bc I'm stumped

I'm looking for a versatile brown shoe. Something I can wear with a navy suit, but would also work with dark denim
$200-250 limit

What would you guys recommend?

The only thing that seems like it could work are the Loake Pimlico in brown leather


Thanks! 

I would shop clearance allen Edmonds. Or stretch the budget they are about $320 normally.