Allen Edmonds Appreciation Thread 2016 - News, Pictures, Sizing, Accessories, Clothing, etc

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  1. gm928

    gm928 Senior member

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    I would also keep them, assuming that spot is the only significant flaw. It would help if we could see the other problems.
     
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    Here are best I could do for pics. There's a pretty flat part on the toe of one shoe, that extends towards the top of the sole (it's not just on the bottome), and a pretty decent indentation on the side of sole on the other. There's another small splotch of color towards to back on the leather, as well.

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    From my understanding, the correct answer is none. My flat footed feet do not allow for a bowing ankle free AE fit. I experience this in most brands, to varying degrees. Maybe you have this problem as well? If you try on various combinations of sizes and widths, you might find a size that allows for minimized ankle bowing, which is what i did. Still not ideal, but it's a fact of life until bespoke becomes an option.
     
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    You're the only one that will notice those. If they were mine I would still keep them. However, if those really bother you send them back. You are the one that has to live with them.
     
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    This is a tough question for me when it regards Firsts. I remember AE quality 5 years ago, and their QC process was so much better back then. Visiting my AE store today, and i'm not sure what to think about the quality of even on some of their display shoes. This is something i have talked to my SA's about recently, and it has been noticed by them as well. The value of Firsts are not what they use to be IMO, especially considering all of the completion (even from their own Seconds). Only the individual buyer can judge what issues are passable on a first quality pair of AE's. Having said that, the flaws on these are nominal based on what i have seen on Firsts recently.
     
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    That's cool. I picked up a pair of Yorks on eBay last year and absolutely love them. I was told by a rep at AE that these are about 10 years old. She couldn't pinpoint it for sure. I did some looking back through all the old AE digital catalogs and was able to figure out when they stopped appearing in them, but now I can't recall exactly which year that was.

    EDIT--Just took another look at the catalogs. Last one it appeared in was 2003 (https://issuu.com/allenedmonds/docs/fall-2003-catalog).

    Bernie
     
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    Thanks for your opinions so far. I'm definitely not a perfectionist. It's true that most people won't notice those thing when I wear them out and about. I guess I just need to figure out what MY standard is going to be for QC.

    I'm not sure if it comes through in the picture very well, but in the second pic, where the sole looks darker, there's a pretty bad physical uneveness there...it's not just the color.
     
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    My personal rule is to imagine that the shoes were perfect when I got them, and then decide if the flaws are things that would happen anyway within the first five to ten wearings. Minor scrapes on the edge of the sole, superficial marks on the uppers, etc., are not things to worry about on a pair of shoes that will be used out in the world with stairs, uneven sidewalks, etc. If the flaws go beyond the kind of things that will inevitably happen from normal wear, then I start to think about returning.
     
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    Here's a question: were the shoes in question obtained with a considerable discount? That always softens my tolerance a bit. My personal opinion is that those flaws are all minor, and I've certainly seen similar details on in-spec shoes from higher-tier makers like Alden, Vass, and Carmina.

    I would personally wear and enjoy, but if these imperfections are going to eat away at you, then it's not money well spent.
     
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    They were bought during the merlot sale.
     
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    I would likely keep those if I had ordered them, but we all have things that bother us. If you feel as if knowing those minor flaws exist will interfere with your enjoyment of the shoes, then return them. But I have a a few pairs whose original flaws I honestly could no longer identify for you if I tried.
     
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    These are good rules to abide by.

    I sometimes even forgive some finishing issues like inconsistent polishing or less than favorable looking welt & stitching. My big pet peeve is the quality of cut on the leather, which is a coin toss now that AE uppers are cut by machine.
     
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    Like the others I see nothing that would bother me all that much. But if you purchased at a retail location, and had the second pair shipped to your home, one reason to return would be to establish to the SA what you find acceptble or not. Had I been you I would have had the pair above shipped to the store to allow you to examine them with the SA from the beginning.
     
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    So what were they priced? 279$? MSRP is 399. I would forgive these particular defects given the discount.

    But that's just me!!!! :)
     
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    I can be pretty picky and honestly for my FIRST pair I can see complaining. Decent rule is what @peppercorn78 said about 10 wears or so. Now that I've received several shoes I think I have an idea of what I can tolerate as "firsts" to keep. I also take into consideration the quality I've seen from shoes purchased through the shoebank. If it appears to me that its what I expect from the shoebank (which in some cases are flawless to my eye honestly) then I will request either a new pair or just to have the price adjusted to "seconds" pricing. I must say the McAllister in merlot has been a thorn in my side though as I am still waiting for a pair from back in the may sale.
     
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