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Which car would you lease for 3 years?

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by sportin_life, Feb 8, 2012.

Which car would you lease for 3 years as a short term option before upgrading?

  1. BMW 3 series

    18 vote(s)
    25.4%
  2. BMW 5 series

    10 vote(s)
    14.1%
  3. Audi A5

    23 vote(s)
    32.4%
  4. Mercedes C-class coupe

    6 vote(s)
    8.5%
  5. Mercedes E-class coupe

    3 vote(s)
    4.2%
  6. Other

    11 vote(s)
    15.5%
  1. Berzerk91

    Berzerk91 Well-Known Member

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    I love my E Class coupe although the 335 is definitely a great alternative. I just wasn't a fan of it's appearance.

    I wouldn't say MB falls below Audi in performance, I don't know where that came from. I can destroy A5s and A6s with my car in Sport mode. Benz definitely ranks below BMW and Infiniti in terms of speed though. The E-Coupe really isn't that big by the way, I park next to a 3 series at work and it's only a little longer even though it seems way bigger. Although I doubt you'll end up getting it. I also managed to get the maintenance package for free with my Benz along with US Open tickets and stuff. They've really treated me great.

    I definitely wouldn't go with the Audi, underpowered and overpriced, plus they have horrible lease rates. Just because the MSRP is the same doesn't mean the lease rates will be similar. The BMW 5 series is awesome if you're okay with the size/having a sedan.

    I highly recommend the Infiniti G37 coupe also, I could have an IPL G37 for what I pay for the Benz and sometimes I wonder "what if?". The interior isn't as nice as the other cars but it's so fun to drive.

    Do you understand how to negotiate and calculate a lease? It isn't rocket science but I have a spreadsheet for calculating lease rates if that helps. Just need to look up the residuals and money factors and figure out what the MSRP vs invoice price will be and plug it in.
     


  2. gamelan

    gamelan Senior member

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    didn't vote but if i did i would go with "Other" with "Other" being an M3.
    -Jeff
     


  3. GreenFrog

    GreenFrog Senior member

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  4. GreenFrog

    GreenFrog Senior member

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    :cheers:

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  5. shadesofbeige

    shadesofbeige Senior member

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    Thanks for that thoughtful rebuttal Berzerk91. I must say I have much more experience with BMW's and Audi's than Benzes. However, I did drive a 2007 CLK 500 recently. Although that massive V8 provides plenty of power, I never could shake the feeling that I was driving the car the size of a whale. It feels every bit as heavy as it is.

    I also tend to define "performance" more in terms of handling than horsepower, especially on the subject of German cars. On that note, the steering on the CLK was very muted and unresponsive, I had a hell of a time just getting the thing into the garage. I'd hope that the C and E class coupes are very different cars from that one - Mercedes must have killed off the CLK name for a reason.
     


  6. akatsuki

    akatsuki Senior member

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    I'd go E-class coupe. Just a nice car in a lot of ways.

    But then again, I don't pretend I am about handling in the curves when most of my driving is in the city. I had a Boxster for a while, and then rode motorcycles, which was a hell of a lot more fun than a 3 series could ever be.
     


  7. Berzerk91

    Berzerk91 Well-Known Member

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    Were you driving the Benz in S mode? I find that Mercedes is one of the few companies where their Economy mode is so much different from their Sport mode. Make sure you put the Benzes you test drive in sport mode. Try the shifter paddles and stuff too, pull off from 1st gear, etc..

    Regardless, I agree that they cannot beat BMWs in terms of responsiveness and handling. I love the heavy steering of BMWs, you won't find that elsewhere and I definitely like the responsive "heavy" steering in my dads BMW more than my Mercedes'. My next lease will either be an MB or some BMW I'm sure (M5? :slayer:) .

    For what it's worth you could probably get a loaded 335xi with the M-Sport package at a better deal that any other brand mentioned thus far. If you're willing to pay more taxes upfront and up your price range in terms of lease payment and insurance you could probably get the M3 convertible on a good deal too. Last I checked (a while ago -May 2011?) the lease rates and incentives on the convertible were great.

    No one's mentioned the Porsche Cayman, it's probably $100-$200 more a month though. Probably a little harder to lease and whatnot, but tons more fun.
     
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  8. idfnl

    idfnl Senior member

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    Depends on where you live. If you have 4 seasons and / or lots of rain, go with the Audi. I drive one, the all wheel drive system is brilliant.

    Re performance, for what? To drive in traffic? Those are all well tuned, well designed, well fitted cars. People talk about performance as if you can do something with it. Unless you are using the car for track days dont worry about it. They are all in the same ball park.
     


  9. shibbel

    shibbel Senior member

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    OP, you might want to consider Infiniti if you're looking for lots of bang for your buck.. They also have a kick ass MSD program that allows you to buy down the money factor a substantial amount with 10 deposits. BMW has a MSD program although not nearly as good.
     


  10. apz06

    apz06 Well-Known Member

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    ok so you said your after a small mid size car with decent performance right? Forget about the 5 series and e class then.A5 has less then impressive performance (the s5 aint bad), so that leaves the 3 series. If you go 335i the newer ones have a better seat of the pants feel due to a nice flat tq curve from the switch to a single turbo from twins in i believe 08. BUT the turbo 3 series are still plagued with fuel system gremlins. With that said for the best of all worlds get an m3. great reliability,great acceleration and handling, killer looks with the wider fenders, & shit gas milage lol. . . . .Just my 2 cents test drive em all & get what rocks your socks . . Hell i drive a supercharged z06 every day
     
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  11. sportin_life

    sportin_life Senior member

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    Thanks for all the input guys! I guess I'll go test drive a 3 series, c350, A5, and a G35.

    Couple more things if anyone has thoughts on these:

    1. 335 vs. c350 in terms of performance?

    2. c350 vs. e350? Looking at the specs, they have the same engine and same options? It seems like the only difference is the larger body of the e-class?

    3. The current 2012 335 coupe is still the last series and not the F30 series right? Anyone know when the F30 coupes will come out, random internet blogs speculate mid-2012?
     


  12. apz06

    apz06 Well-Known Member

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    #1 335. also 335 is sooo much more capable with only a tune you can add around 80hp and 100tq
    #2 c350 . e350 heavier with i believe same drive train
    #3 same series. new one probably coming out in late 12 for 13 but really idk for sure

    not a fan of the new audi a4/s4 b8s?
     


  13. Berzerk91

    Berzerk91 Well-Known Member

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    1. 335 easily.
    2. c350 for performance. e350 is only larger/better looking (imo, of course :embar:)
    3. same series, don't think you'll be able to get F30 til much later in the year/2013.

    Since you're leasing it's worth noting the 61% or so residual/.00195 MF on the BMW vs the 54%/.0014 or so residual/MF on the A5. (C350 2dr is 64%/.00225)
     


  14. Dashaansafin

    Dashaansafin Senior member

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    This isnt your first "real" job is it?
     


  15. sportin_life

    sportin_life Senior member

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    It is my first "real" job since I've basically been in training the entire time (although making decent income doing it).

    Thanks for all the input. I'll check out all the above mentioned cars: C350, A5, Infiniti IPL coupe, and BMW 328 (decided against 335 after reading a bunch of random online reviews stating the 335 has engine issues).
     


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