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The Watch Appreciation Thread (Reviews and Photos of Men's Timepieces by Rolex, Patek Philippe, Brei

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gdl203, May 20, 2007.

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  1. ChicagoRon

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    Ah - dopey beat me while I was looking for images.. rats!
     
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    What is the 1,2,3,B in the top sub-dial on the AP?
     
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    Quadruple Post?!?!?!
     
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    Leap Year
     
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    yes. :)
     
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    I much prefer the charm of the hand-lettered style in the second example. The nine on the first dial is equally indistinguishable from a six, and Times New Roman is not something I actually want to see anywhere on a watch. Its presence is by far my least favourite feature of my Reverso GMT.
     
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    I actually do prefer a certain amount of "flipping" on numerals as I refer to the date function often and would like it to be "right side up." Of course this is just a matter of training your brain, just like you have to kind of teach yourself how to read the subdial layout of any multi-subdial calendar anyway. Most ferris wheels flip between 23 and 25, for example, and that doesn't bother me. It's just the "9" that looks so much like a "6" that niggles, just a wee bit, especially since you could have flipped it at "11" and it would be fine.
     
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    i think that would be a lot better.
     
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    Quote:I think so - especially if the font used for "11" basically renders the flipping "irrelevant" (it won't even look like a flip if the 11 looked like this - "II" - as it does in the Patek 3970 and many others).
     
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    Go on ....

    (I just want one with an open caseback that shows off the awesome movement.)
     
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    I don't know of a model (outside of maybe one of the numerous limited editions) that uses a plastic crystal but still offers a sapphire display back, but then again I am no Speedmaster expert, and I prefer a sapphire front crystal in any event.
     
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    They made the hesalite sandwich speedmaster for quite some time. Hesalite on the front with a sapphire display back. They are pretty easy to pick up on the second hand market.
     
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    Quote:Me too. Yes, doesn't remain true to the original, but sapphire crystal is just not as easily scratchable (although hesalite scratches can apparently be polished out pretty easily). As discussed in this forum a few (hundred?) pages ago, hesalite was essential to the original purpose since it doesn't shatter - sapphire crystal shatters and that would not exactly be good in zero gravity. But since I have no plans to go to the moon or wear a timepiece in zero gravity anytime soon I'd like the scratch proof benefits of the sapphire crystal. Just my personal preference.
     
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    I have been a certified watch nut since circa 1991. Since then I have managed to shatter a sum total of exactly zero sapphire crystals. But I have scratched plenty of plastic crystals. So I am with you on scrtach resistance trumping shatter resistance. I'm not at all sure how "easily scratchable" plus "easily fixable" nets out to a positive in a contemporary sports watch, but people like what they like. One thing Speedmaster shoppers are not lacking is choice.
     
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    I recommend seeing both in person. There is a wonderful warmth to the hesalite crystal that is hard to describe; and on the other side there is a cold serene look to the sapphire.

    I know I sound like an idiot, but see for yourself
     
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    Quote:You don't sound like an idiot at all! Then again I write stuff like this all the time too... But seriously, there's nothing like actually seeing the watch and putting it on your wrist to settle doubts, questions, etc. Absolutely +1,000 for this advice.
     
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    getting these breitlings ready today.

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    You don't sound like an idiot to me. But I have seen plenty of plastic crystal Speedy's over the years and never understood the rhapsodizing about their special "warmth" as compared with their sapphire counterparts. In fact, it is pretty much only within the context of the Speeedmaster that I have heard the virtues of plastic crystalsI not only extolled but romanticized. I suspect if these virtues were more widely held, they would be more widely represented among contemporary watches.

    I own a number of plastic crystal vintage pieces, and a number of sapphire contemporary pieces. They do look different - as one would expect given the different materials. I've never really wished that my vintage pieces were sapphire or that my contemporary pieces were plastic. I absolutely agree that seeing for yourself, wherever possible, is the smartest course of action.
     
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    Late to the party, but I do like those FCs. What's the recommended spot to acquire?

    I'm generally a used market guy, and FC's don't pop up often.
     
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    I would second that they need to define the direction of the brand better. I'd also say that they need to offer some smaller cases. I quickly gravitated to the brand early on because of the more modest case sizes. That moonphase I'd buy in a heartbeat if it wasn't 42MM. For the record I own 2 of their earlier ('08) offerings and think they are a superb value for the $.

    As far as them borrowing design elements that's fine by me. They aren't homages that entirely rip off other designs but they take classic elements and incorporate them into watches that I can afford. I can't buy a Breguet but I have 2 FCs!


    I'd say try WUS, just bought a used FC for my girl to wear a few weeks ago. They are hard to find as they aren't a well known but the upside is they're attractively priced when they do come up.
     
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