The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

[JJ Katz]

This was a few weeks ago

 

[The Dirty Pigeon]

I don't love the shape of my waistcoat but love the rest of my tuxedo. I might try to have the waistcoat re-cut, which could be a disaster, but possibly worth a try. As an alternative, I could get something from another maker or find something vintage. Is it generally acceptable to have wear a black waistcoat that isn't an exact fabric match with the jacket and trousers or is this a bad idea?

 

[gimpwiz]

I think the general consensus has been that while no black seems to be the exact shade of another black, you can only really tell in good light - at best. Dim light, low chance unless they're vastly different and catch and reflect light differently.

 

[The Chai]

Get it in black silk to match your facings or black jacquard

 

[Andy57]

Get it in black silk to match your facings or black jacquard

This is a good idea. Or white Marcella. Or use a cummerbund, instead.

 

[archie824]

Crossposting from the Fit thread,

What do you guys think?

Keep the 38L Contemporary or 38R Slim

38L Contemporary
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38R Slim (old)
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[classicalthunde]

Crossposting from the Fit thread,

What do you guys think?

Keep the 38L Contemporary or 38R Slim

38L Contemporary
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38R Slim (old)
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I vote contemporary - I think it looks better and you can clean the back up with a tailor.

Also, you could go that route for the sole reasons the reason that people tend to grow not shrink overtime, and a tux should be a long term garment

 

[archie824]

I vote contemporary - I think it looks better and you can clean the back up with a tailor.

Also, you could go that route for the sole reasons the reason that people tend to grow not shrink overtime, and a tux should be a long term garment

Thanks for the input! To my untrained eyes, I have no idea what makes contemporary look better. Can you help me expand please. I've been the same size for the past decade, since my mid 20s haha

 

[gimpwiz]

Je ne sais quoi, but the contemporary one is better. Tuxes aren't supposed to be super slim, and a bit of tailoring should get the contemporary one to be just about right, I think.

TBH, I'd still bring both to your favorite tailor for their opinion.

 

[Nick Charles]

Crossposting from the Fit thread,

What do you guys think?

Keep the 38L Contemporary or 38R Slim

38L Contemporary
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38R Slim (old)
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I think it's funny that in some pictures one looks better than the other and vice-versa in other pictures. Can see why you're having trouble deciding. Sometimes, I wish people could post videos of them in their tuxes so we could more easily appraise. I would follow gimpwiz's suggestion and get your tailor's opinion.

 

[Andy57]

I got a new tie. It's not black, though.

 

[Andy57]

And I got another new tie, also not black.

 

[ericgereghty]

I got a new tie. It's not black, though.
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Curious if you're of a mind to ever pair this jacket with lighter colored trousers?

 

[Andy57]

Curious if you're of a mind to ever pair this jacket with lighter colored trousers?

Yes, I have thought about it. I think it would work well with my ivory formal trousers. I've also got a pair of trousers in the works made from a dark blue linen with a floral pattern that will compliment this jacket, for those sultry Florentine evenings.

 

[ericgereghty]

Yes, I have thought about it. I think it would work well with my ivory formal trousers. I've also got a pair of trousers in the works made from a dark blue linen with a floral pattern that will compliment this jacket, for those sultry Florentine evenings.

About what I was thinking. The "sloppy" nature of the linen (and the color) seems well suited to it.