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The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

JJ Katz

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This was a few weeks ago

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The Dirty Pigeon

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I don't love the shape of my waistcoat but love the rest of my tuxedo. I might try to have the waistcoat re-cut, which could be a disaster, but possibly worth a try. As an alternative, I could get something from another maker or find something vintage. Is it generally acceptable to have wear a black waistcoat that isn't an exact fabric match with the jacket and trousers or is this a bad idea?
 

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I think the general consensus has been that while no black seems to be the exact shade of another black, you can only really tell in good light - at best. Dim light, low chance unless they're vastly different and catch and reflect light differently.
 

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I vote contemporary - I think it looks better and you can clean the back up with a tailor.

Also, you could go that route for the sole reasons the reason that people tend to grow not shrink overtime, and a tux should be a long term garment
 

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I vote contemporary - I think it looks better and you can clean the back up with a tailor.

Also, you could go that route for the sole reasons the reason that people tend to grow not shrink overtime, and a tux should be a long term garment
Thanks for the input! To my untrained eyes, I have no idea what makes contemporary look better. Can you help me expand please. I've been the same size for the past decade, since my mid 20s haha
 

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Je ne sais quoi, but the contemporary one is better. Tuxes aren't supposed to be super slim, and a bit of tailoring should get the contemporary one to be just about right, I think.

TBH, I'd still bring both to your favorite tailor for their opinion.
 

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I think it's funny that in some pictures one looks better than the other and vice-versa in other pictures. Can see why you're having trouble deciding. Sometimes, I wish people could post videos of them in their tuxes so we could more easily appraise. I would follow gimpwiz's suggestion and get your tailor's opinion.
 

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Curious if you're of a mind to ever pair this jacket with lighter colored trousers?
Yes, I have thought about it. I think it would work well with my ivory formal trousers. I've also got a pair of trousers in the works made from a dark blue linen with a floral pattern that will compliment this jacket, for those sultry Florentine evenings.
 

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Yes, I have thought about it. I think it would work well with my ivory formal trousers. I've also got a pair of trousers in the works made from a dark blue linen with a floral pattern that will compliment this jacket, for those sultry Florentine evenings.
About what I was thinking. The "sloppy" nature of the linen (and the color) seems well suited to it.
 

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