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**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.**

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr. Moo, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't really matter because they are never touching each other. Lexol on vamp, reno everywhere else. Then polish. Minimal polish on vamp, if any.
     
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    I made the same mistake some hundred pages back. I tried some lexol on a small spot on a pair of shell shoes, and it turned misty white. I would advise the Saphir shell cream instead, works wonders.
     
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    Confused on the Reno discussion. I was under the impression Reno was both a cleaner and a conditioner. Figured putting it on every couple of months was good to keep shoes conditioned and soft.

    Back to the drawing board.
     
  6. patrickBOOTH

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    I have only used it on the crease going across the vamp of my shoe. It was already misty because, well, it is shell and that is what happens. I wouldn't use it on the toe or anything, then again I wouldn't use it on other parts of calf either. It penetrates the finish too much and you have to work kind of hard to get a good shine again.
     
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    Quote: This was my impression as well (and although I've only been using for six months, I've been very happy with the results). Guess I'll buy some Lexol as well.
     
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    Question.

    If one of the two goals of a shoe tree is to wick up moisture, and that didn't happen, do I really need to limit my shoe tree options to non-polished cedar?

    It's more or less hypothetical since it's pretty hard to find cheap shoe trees that aren't non-coated cedar.
     
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    Dont you love it when the best choice is also the easiest If you are really into the look of polished wood trees just let the shoes dry before putting them in
     
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    Thank you for that run-on sentence that confused me for a few minutes.

    The question was, is it really the best choice, or just the easiest? Or does it even really matter?
     
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    I have and still call bullshit on this. Nick gave absolutely no substantiation on to why Lexol would be bad, and it was just a passing remark. Also, DFWII is an advocate, from what I remember searching this exhaustively in the past, and dude seems highly knowledgeable.

    I use Lexol on all my shell without issue. Some people also are against wax on shell, or advise sparingly. I use that, too. Maybe I'm just coo-coo. I also sno-sealed shell, and there's not really any reason to do that, lol. Maybe some detriment will show itself over time, but I have shell going on a year now that is a-OK.

    I recommend people experiment and draw their own conclusions.

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    Is it just me, or does pebble-grain leather take a shine damn well?
     
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    Thank you very much . Missing puncuation, lack of capitalization and indecipherable erudition are all areas that I particularly excell in . It is always a pleasure when someone takes note and is complementary.
    What I intended to convey was the idea that unfinished shoe trees, while being not only the cheapest and most available , are also the best type for the job.
    As to whether it matters or not depends on how quickly one wishes to put the shoe trees in after removing their shoes .
    On the other hand, if the question of whether it matters or not was intended to be existential ,that is another matter entirely and I apologize for my clumsy attempt to answer a query meant to be rhetorical.
     
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    I know snoseal will darken shell considerably . How would you describe the effect of lexol in regards to appearance? I have an old pair of beater color 8 ptbs that I perform Dr Frankenstien experiments on regularly . It is amazing how durable this stuff really is . While calf is relativly easily " ruined" shell is pretty impervious imo to anything short of mechanical damage. I also would love to hear from anyone having first hand experince harming shell in some way through some misguided attempt to condition them . I personally dont use wax but not because i fear it will harm the leather . I just prefer the type of patina that develops on unwaxed shell
     
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    ^^^^chuckles^^^^
     
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    while you are free to experiment all you want, i would tend to believe what Horween says since they know more than probably anyone else in the world about their own shell cordovan and caring for it.
     
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    Well done good sir. I tip my hat to you.

    The question is more like, why are unfinished shoe trees considered to be the best for the job if the reason to have them unfinished is to wick up moisture, and that obviously is not happening? Would it be better to have a shoe tree that has more ventilation so the moisture can evaporate instead of having one that covers the most surface area with unfinished wood to attempt soaking up the moisture? I'm a fan of putting them in right after since that's probably the best time to maintain the shape of the shoe so I hate to leave them out for 15-30 minutes while the shoe dries. Maybe those cheapy plastic shoe trees are theoretically better.

    This is really just playing devils advocate. I love my Epic shoe trees and will continue to slightly overpay for them from THP.
     
  18. MarioImpemba

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    Lexol has no effect on appearance, other than when combined with ample brushing will restore a clean sheen to your shoes.

    Also agree with your comment regarding wax; letting the shell do the work, not products, is best IMO.

    I would prefer more extrapolation of the science behind why lexol would be bad, or at least empirical evidence, of which neither were provided; kinda hard for me to swallow given their attachment to venitian creme.
     
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    Because pebble grain is a form of "correction" to leather
     
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    Venetian is shit, IMO. Nothing more than a neutral polish
     

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