Shoe Damage Report & Shoe P0rn Central - Part II

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Oyaji, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. bengal-stripe

    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    To a certain extend, pattern cutter and clicker have created the rod to beat their backs. That wrap-around pattern has intrinsic difficulties which a conventional monk shoe pattern would not have. A conventional pattern would have three main pieces: one vamp and two quarters the inside quarter with strap extension, the outside one without.
     
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  2. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Well, now that we have a photo of the back (thanks CD--sorry, it is not a whole cut) everything changes again. Doesn't it?

    This is not to say that this shoe wouldn't be difficult to make and that the clicking involves an extra degree of difficulty. But having that second piece--that medial quarter...which is the piece that forms the instep...we again have to ask ourselves why the quarters and the instep pieces are so mismatched.

    PS...I love alligator but I am not so enamoured of monks...I wouldn't be in a hurry to make this shoe, whole cut or no. In my view the crocodile itself makes such "issues" all the more apparent.
     
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  3. rabiesinfrance

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    Utility Oxford made by Lotus. 1940s vintage.

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  4. meister

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    I saw those but those snaps make them even more beautiful. The grand old Lotus firm before it degenerated into corrected grain.
     
  5. GusW

    GusW Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Some croc Testoni shoes worn by a friend of mine when we met up for Friday afternoon drinks.


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  6. Gdot

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    They are ridiculous and wonderful!
     
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    Those are great.
     
  8. GusW

    GusW Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I think that sums it up very well :)

    He wears them for fun. In fact he added the green laces to make them look a little less serious.
     
  9. SpooPoker

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    If I wore those, you would have went ballistic on me.
     
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    There is something about these shots that look pornographic. :satisfied:
     
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  11. Gdot

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    Because on you those shoes would just be tired and sad! :butbut:






























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    you know we love you bro, right?
     
  12. srivats

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    I like these a lot. Very nice pair!
     
  13. GusW

    GusW Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I don't have a short reply for you regarding this comment but I would enjoy discussing this further.

    Let me start by saying that the context of what someone wears, how they wear it and where they wear it has a lot to do with my replies on SF. In this particular case, my friend is a former punk-rockabilly dude who was an international trader of vintage guitars for many years. His client base was esoteric and eccentric to say the least. He now sells that same client base real estate. For him to show up in SF approved apparel (even SF approved SW&D) would appear to his clients as "selling out". Unlike most of the people who post on WAYWRN, Rock your socks or Shoe Damage, he isn't 1) posting 2) seeking feedback or comments. He has his own style and it works for him in his eclectic, non-SF life.

    Spoo, I think your coordination of styles, colors and patterns has improved tremendously in the last year. Because you were posting for comments on WAYWRN or CBD, etc, I went ahead an expressed my opinion. (although I haven't for a long time) I think your mix of styles and colors looks a lot more refined and successful these days. You have really come a long way. A year or so ago, too frequently, outfits appeared to be a mix of a number of unrelated items that were all very nice individually, but didn't coordinate as a whole. In fact, many looked like mixed metaphors. But, you have obviously been working hard at it with quality discussions and feedback. The results speak for themselves in your posts over the last few months.

    Coordinating colors, patterns and styles is an art that is learned. It takes time. It took me ages and I've worked with top designers and artists every day for decades doing nothing but designing products coordinating these basics. And yes, I still make mistakes.

    You are after all a high profile poster. ("Internet Bigtimer") Many new members of SF were making positive comments about your "mixed metaphor" outfits. I felt that another honest and sincere opinion should be expressed. I wasn't trying to beat you up. This is a forum for discussion and learning. I wanted to share another perspective from a classic color, pattern and style perspective.

    Back to your original comment. Had you been wearing funky selvedge jeans, with croc shoes, green laces, a un-ironed shirt and wrinkled seersucker jacket in a cafe in Berkeley on a Friday afternoon, no I wouldn't have gone ballistic on you. I would have ordered us both another drink. :)
     
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    I have nothing but respect for you. I appreciate your sincere and honest candor and the time you spent to make that post. I have put forth a very strong effort to take the notes you (and all others) have consistently told me and apply them. Thanks, G. Drinks on me.
     
  15. in stitches

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    this stuff warms my heart. great post PSG. and as an aside, thanks for the direction you have given me as well. happy sunday to you all.
     

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