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It's probably too late to say this, but if you're from Brisbane, you should give very serious consideration to ordering something from Rene at Deer Style in Brisbane.
Excellent price point, very wide range of customisation, very wide range of cloth and, as you note, much, much, much better than the Cloakroom. Rene's also an extremely nice person, to boot. I don't have a commercial interest, but I'm a very satisfied customer of Deer Style.
Evening chaps.
What is the general feedback on SuitShop products?
I was also looking to get some advice RE first time MTM suiting. I'm from Brisbane and am only in Sydney for a few days. I simply refuse to get anything done at Brisbane's The Cloakroom, as I've had numerous friends get items done (including members of the Reds) and the feedback has never been good. I have an appointment later this month at Suit Shop and I'm looking to get two suits done plus an extra pair of off-white trousers.
if you get enough of a dialogue with suit shop, they might let you order from Brisbane when p Johnson does a visit, which is around every 8-12 weeks.
Thanks Journeyman, I have never heard of Deer Style before.
What was their price point for suiting? Would be keen to perhaps get some shirts done, now that I know they exist. The website doesn't give much away, but if they are as good as you say they are they should really invest in improving their online platform and marketing!
if you get enough of a dialogue with suit shop, they might let you order from Brisbane when p Johnson does a visit, which is around every 8-12 weeks.
Alternatives are bnt via the fineryco.
I'm debating between P Johnson and Chan as cost would be somewhat similar (but PJ is much more convenient for me). Any advice would be much appreciated.
Not to chide you too much @Lowndes but can I assume you are referring shorthand to the Hong Kong based tailoring house "W.W. Chan"?
If so, I would be more inclined toward Chan for a variety of reasons (taking into account that I've had about three suits made through PJT over the past 4 years):
The totality of what I'm saying might imply I'm a bit down on PJT. Just to clarify, that's not the case at all. Their clothing is still incredibly wearable, louche and has a certain mass appeal evident on social media. However if what you're looking for is VFM and durability, Chan make a product which has been almost universally well reviewed - by the sort of people who habitually buy bespoke at triple the price. PJT's prices have also gone up (there are showrooms to pay for after all) and their supply chain has become slightly more opaque too. Those latter two considerations strongly affected my ability to continue buying from them.
- The quality of Chan's work (in the construction and finishing categories) is IMO better. This is partially because they don't farm the making out to a factory overseas. The pattern cutting and suit-making are all done in Hong Kong, reportedly all in the same building. The only exception to this general observation would be if you are having something made with PJT's new Sartoria Carrara workshop (at an up-charge I'm sure);
- P Johnson largely do MTM clothing. There's nothing wrong with that, but if you can access bespoke at the same price (which is what Chan focuses on) the latter seems much more appealing, particularly if you have weird body idiosyncrasies as I do. I had a variety of casual and formal tailoring made with PJT and while the fit was always 'good' they never nailed it;
- Chan are actually surprisingly flexible when it comes to a house style. Obviously, their default involves a little bit of draping and features a structured shoulder but over the years their contact with various third party retailers (n.b. Brio & The Armoury) has made them receptive when it comes to making something softer and dare I say more "Italian". If you go that route just be sure to specify what you want and request it persistently.
Just my two cents as a former PJ customer.