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Perhaps. Even so, don't you think it more telling that he never posted at all in SW&D? If you ponder that, you might answer some of your own more general questions.
At any rate, I rather doubt the inactivity of many former members on tailored clothing subjects has much to do with the topics acecow and you are discussing, nor does it seem germaine to the points edmorel was making earlier.
Well, your viewpoint does not seem too complex: it's basically highly relativistic and non-social. There's no indication of being part of a community, or larger culture, or ongoing (as opposed to quantumly-chosen) history. Generally speaking, the typical MC poster believes, pretends, or fantasizes otherwise (I think.)
Think of it this way...for the coat and tie crowd, it works like this:
1. You wear a suit and tie.
2. You get more casual by replacing the suit jacket with an odd jacket.
3. You get more casual still by losing the necktie.
4. You get even more casual by losing the jacket.
There you have it: casual wear. Shirt, pants, shoes. In each of the categories above, there are ranges of fabrics, colors, accessories that are more apt to that level of formality.
Toss in accessories and clothes from sporting life, and then jeans, and it largely captures everything of relevance since WWII.
These graduations of formality inherit a deep tradition of thinking that certain clothes go with certain occasions and purposes. A hundred years, give or take, of practice produces complexity and nuance that no single designer can ever hope to approach, much less surpass.
In contrast, contemporary fashion clothes are a one trick pony. You dress the same, by and large, day and night, weekday and weekend. The style...assuming that you have any...is encapsulated with you, and bears scant relation to others, to occasion, or to a larger living culture in which some degree of deference and accomodation is important.
I think that lectures from SW&D about how "MCers" can "improve" their "fits" are prone to failure except in a rare few cases where the person has the interest, means, and security of immediate social tolerance for dressing schizo. Don Diego de la Vega by day. Zorro by night.
that he doesn't post here anymore is quite telling, I'd say.
Perhaps. Even so, don't you think it more telling that he never posted at all in SW&D? If you ponder that, you might answer some of your own more general questions.
At any rate, I rather doubt the inactivity of many former members on tailored clothing subjects has much to do with the topics acecow and you are discussing, nor does it seem germaine to the points edmorel was making earlier.
snowman is a semi-professional boxer. RO sneakers are garbage, look ugly, poor build quality, but are so aggressively offensive that they can look awesome in a certain context, a grungy look of idontgiveadamn, if you will.
these ann boots are nothing like RO sneakers, I guess your point was that you don't like either which is fine. These are rather bulbous and the wedge sole adds to that effect. Still the leather is quite buttery soft on them, and they're nice for tucking if that's what you aim for.
and I guess the point is not really to put something together that people would notice, NYC or not. He wears this because he can and no he's not some college kid skipping classes to put pics on internet, because it's comfortable for him, because he likes it, and because he, first and foremost, feels it looks good. Not having the perfect fit on the shirt is not really a consideration, it's not a deal breaker. The thing is, there are no real rules. Things just click. The suit UC posted was amazing, and I'm sure would be loved on SWD (well I shared it there anyway, sorry for no ask, but I liked it that much despite not caring for 2 roll 3 or 3 buttons -- personal quirk, I prefer 1, 2 or 4+ buttons, anything involving 3 buttons I don't like) because it works, the fabric looks great, the fit is nice on him, and he looks to be wearing the suit rather than the other way around. Similarly, and here I speak of my own preference by pointing to snow's second fit, the pants (stat-ment, not sure many here or swd would know it) are fantastic, the aggressive taper, the fabrics are perfect, the color is very nice, just blend into the tall boot shafts, and the black belt and boots make a great contrast on the white and grey.
Please note neither of these consist of denim. Despite the name, SWD is not just [japanophiles and their] denim and trashed sneakers. It's become a rather all-encompassing thing where composition, environment, quality of image, and to an extent, the user, all go into a formula for determining what level of praise a contribution will receive. And no, not all that receive massive praise are perfect, and there are some very good fits that are largely ignored. Just the nature of the beast ...
Well, your viewpoint does not seem too complex: it's basically highly relativistic and non-social. There's no indication of being part of a community, or larger culture, or ongoing (as opposed to quantumly-chosen) history. Generally speaking, the typical MC poster believes, pretends, or fantasizes otherwise (I think.)
Think of it this way...for the coat and tie crowd, it works like this:
1. You wear a suit and tie.
2. You get more casual by replacing the suit jacket with an odd jacket.
3. You get more casual still by losing the necktie.
4. You get even more casual by losing the jacket.
There you have it: casual wear. Shirt, pants, shoes. In each of the categories above, there are ranges of fabrics, colors, accessories that are more apt to that level of formality.
Toss in accessories and clothes from sporting life, and then jeans, and it largely captures everything of relevance since WWII.
These graduations of formality inherit a deep tradition of thinking that certain clothes go with certain occasions and purposes. A hundred years, give or take, of practice produces complexity and nuance that no single designer can ever hope to approach, much less surpass.
In contrast, contemporary fashion clothes are a one trick pony. You dress the same, by and large, day and night, weekday and weekend. The style...assuming that you have any...is encapsulated with you, and bears scant relation to others, to occasion, or to a larger living culture in which some degree of deference and accomodation is important.
I think that lectures from SW&D about how "MCers" can "improve" their "fits" are prone to failure except in a rare few cases where the person has the interest, means, and security of immediate social tolerance for dressing schizo. Don Diego de la Vega by day. Zorro by night.
Don Diego de la Vega: You have passion, Alejandro, and your skill is growing. But to enter Montero's world, I must give you something which is completely beyond your reach.
Alejandro Murrieta: Ah, yes? And what is that?
Don Diego de la Vega: Charm
Alejandro Murrieta: Ah, yes? And what is that?
Don Diego de la Vega: Charm