HOF: What Are You Wearing Right Now - Part III

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mr.K, Mar 25, 2011.

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  1. ethanm

    ethanm Senior member

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    Vox: simple language that clearly outlines and supports an argument.

    Shah: purple prose that uses a lot of words to say nothing.
     
  2. F. Corbera

    F. Corbera Senior member

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    1. Untuck shirt out of pants.

    2. Tuck pants into shoes.
     
  3. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    I wonder what this thread will bring me tomorrow. Today it has given me so many gifts.
     
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    The phrase relates to clothing, though, so in the end, I suppose it's a draw.
     
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    I try not to be serious on here ever, but this back and forth is quite ridiculous.

    The whole basis of a "style forvm community" is to learn from others and hone your own personal tastes. Style in its purest form is an individualized take on a uniform. One has a certain level of predictability that brands them and the details are what gives them their unique style.

    This means that the whole thing is incredibly subjective. There is no right or wrong. People follow rules. People break rules. Life goes on. Aside from demonstrating your personal style to others for inspiration it's ridiculous to think that what you wear is right or wrong. It's completely personal. That's the beauty of it: It's you.

    Personally I give the SWD guys all the credit in the world. Anyone who values the art of dressing and cultivating personal style is a valued member of this forum and to society. That does not mean I like everything I see over there, but hey, that's just my deal. It's how I dress and what I like. I'm sure 99.9% of SWD would say I'm an overgrown frat boy and 90% of MC would agree. Either way, I wear what I like. I took the time to learn what makes a fit that I appreciated, made a uniform and from there made it my own.

    It isn't about dressing "like an adult" or "wearing clothes that fit" (whatever those two statements even mean). Instead it's about expression, appreciation and understanding.

    Oh, and getting laid. Mostly about getting laid.
     
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    Neither subforum is perfect, that's for sure. There's a lot of ugliness and co-optation of poor taste in both. That said, MC has a lot to learn from the collective knowledge of SW&D when it comes to casual dress, colors and fit, but most refuse to accept it. And SW&D has a lot to learn from the collective knowledge of MC when it comes to less casual dress, particularly fit and fabrics, but most refuse to accept it. I wish neither camp was so quick at shooting down advice from the other side, along with mocking the messengers. I do think having bridge posters like Parker, MoK, etc... should continue to open minds.
     
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    Where is aeglus lately? He really is the best bridge poster I have seen.
     
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    the shah Persian Bro #2 and enabler-in-chief

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    this is what happens when you start reading a conversation backwards....that's my point, it's one point in a cycle. saying otherwise is disingenuous, romanticizing it as if it was a pinnacle without admitting a bias is blind. calling the "other" a one-trick pony when this is just the same trick repeated for a hundred years is just strange.

    saying "In the context of RTW merchandizing of clothes, this lack of self-awareness leads to an annoying presumption of novelty or unique discovery masking a lack of talent in both concept and execution" is just ignorant, nobody pretends that fashion isn't cyclical, nobody lacks self-awareness to presume absolute novelty/uniqueness.

    saying one side is brand-obsessed exclusively and the other is not at all is a lie.

    to say that MC is a progression from SWD is odd since I know quite a few who've transitioned rather easily the other way around, not looking back...

    to say that "there is never the pretense of recycling something old as new, since everything is old anyway" is fine, but to say that it is not just redoing the same trick over and over..


    no such theory, but i would like evidence of this claim. i don't support anyone who does. most people dress horribly and the love for dishing advice is inversely proportional to good style, by my observations at least.


    this is the best post, take a bow. i'm also sharing this if you don't mind.
     
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    He has gone pretty much full SW&D now. I think MoK is mostly there too. Parker may be on his way. I would too if I didn't have very clear Mon-Fri boundaries (and the CBD thread to keep me going)
     
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    This.
     
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    Mr. Moo Boxercise Toughguy

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    Doesn't seem so in SWD, where people who dress like total shit lambaste others for doing the same.
     
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    I don't believe that Shah and I are arguing.

    I am just trying to offer one set of explanations for why the reaction to the looks currently popular on SW&D do not produce swoons and batted eyelashes among the coat and tie crowd when offered as urgently needed rehabilitative paliatives to the casualwear of the poor, poor MCer.

    If there are better explanations for the tepid, unenthusiastic response other than that MCers are more profound idiots than the clothing thought leaders of high fashion, well, it would be interesting to hear.

    I would be very pleased to find genius on Style Forvm.
     
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    Thank you very much, sir. Share as you wish! :slayer:
     
  14. Fuuma

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    This doesn't make sense, you are positing that what you call contemporary style is standing outside the social and doesn't adapt to life events.
    1) Most/all designers play with the canon of men's dress, basically questioning it's a priori, playfully remixing them or simply transgressing them. There is no outside, those hundred years of practice are still there but they were never static and never will be.
    2) MCers by and large apply a fantasy image of the standards of days past to today's social landscape, it is wish fulfillment not a respect for their environment that drives them. Their environment wears oversized polos and maybe Gucci loafers as dress shoes. Attempting to freeze culture is as easy as attempting to freeze time.
     
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    I never look at that thread. Maybe I should start. Who are the allstars there I should pay attention to?

    let it be known I have zero interest in attempting any SWD fits, but now I am curious to see them.
     
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