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English Shoe Durability in Practice

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by archetypal_yuppie, Jan 23, 2010.

  1. oroy38

    oroy38 Senior member

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    Well, for the 6 hours that my Edward Greens have seen use, they've performed admirably.
     


  2. SkinnyGoomba

    SkinnyGoomba Senior member

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    Yeah. Unforch allen-edmonds and alden are butt ugly and poorly finished, in my opinion.

    NYC really is a disaster for shoes though. it sucks. rainy days are 'gamo days now


    I agree, I've noticed that my shoes with nails in the toe along with a combination heel wear the longest.

    My english cordovan loafers were very hard on the toe, with toe taps added they're very hard-wearing.

    So far my favorite brand for hearty wear is the Italian made Polo shoes.
     


  3. archetypal_yuppie

    archetypal_yuppie Senior member

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    That "shoes with character" thread was great, btw
     


  4. brandall10

    brandall10 Senior member

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    My AEs (Park Avenues and McAllisters) feel more durable than my sole pair of C&J Handgrades (Audleys).

    My Audleys just feel delicate by comparison - I feel like the price difference is largely due to more supple leather + finer construction details, but rather the AE is a more robust shoe. That said, I understand the tanning process for the handgrades yields longer lasting soles, so they should go further before needing their first resole.
     


  5. archetypal_yuppie

    archetypal_yuppie Senior member

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    "feel" more durable may have no correlation with "are" more durable, but OK.
     


  6. Max MY

    Max MY Member

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    One of the main reasons people give for buying english shoes like C&J or EG is that they're supposed to last longer due to goodyear welt, good leather soles, etc.

    I once owned a pair of black Blundstone boots, which accompanied me across continents, into tropical jungles, up on snowy mountains, and to my casual ex-workplace. I wore them almost everyday for five years (yeah, yeah) and they still looked fairly new.

    One day, the soles finally fell apart. I was aghast when I found out they could not be resoled. Five years of amazing memories in those boots.

    They are the main reason I started buying English shoes. I don't see many Goodyear-welted shoes with full-grain uppers in the market; English shoemakers have tons of them.

    I don't ever want to be forced to throw away a pair of shoes I love, again.
     


  7. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    I don't ever want to be forced to throw away a pair of shoes I love, again.

    i can understand the misery you went through...
     


  8. archetypal_yuppie

    archetypal_yuppie Senior member

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    Cool. Have never heard of Blundstone...
     


  9. mr monty

    mr monty Senior member

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  10. brandall10

    brandall10 Senior member

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    "feel" more durable may have no correlation with "are" more durable, but OK.

    Acknowledged, but as we're talking about luxury/premium shoes there's going to be some difficulty in discerning durability no matter how you slice it. If you want direct experience, the trend will be for people to treat their EGs/C&Js with more care than their lower end shoes.
     


  11. Frihed89

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    I don't go in for dress shoes. However, I have one pair of English shoes made of thick country grain leather that have the dainite rubber soles and storm welts and I find they wear very well. I have worn them in fall-winter-spring for 5 years most days. They could use new soles, soon. I use a natural preservative that I mix with polish to make them as water-tight as possible.

    I'm not sure what i would compare them to? It took quite a while to break them in.
     


  12. Gutman

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    You can get more wear out of them because they look better as they age. You can resole indefinitely. Also, once you get the bug you will have lots in your rotation which makes them appear last even longer. If you go for classic lasts the styling won't date either.
     


  13. brandall10

    brandall10 Senior member

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    You can resole indefinitely.
    But wasn't there a thread recently where it was discussed that the major manufacturers have a limited number of resoles... like only 2-4 times max, and then they refuse to work on the shoe any further. I know that DW took alot of flack for his whole gemming critique for RTW shoes but it seems like it could lend some credence to structural integrity vs. # of resoles a good shoe can take.
     


  14. makewayhomer

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    not in a real sense.

    Alden Shell shoes sell on the secondary market (ebay, buy/sell) for very close to the price of C&J, Trickers, etc...and in some cases cheaper than EG.

    there are G&G shoes (retail $1350) sitting on Buy/Sell right now with an asking price of $500, unsold. EG's were selling for $450 or $500 recently

    the famed brands have retail prices that are 2x as much but on the open market dont sell for that much more.
     


  15. Macallan

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    But wasn't there a thread recently where it was discussed that the major manufacturers have a limited number of resoles... like only 2-4 times max, and then they refuse to work on the shoe any further.

    Church's will do 3 resoles, need to find out their Royal Collection. From what I have read about Edward Green, it seems like 5.

    There are quality cobblers out there, that could resole the shoes after the shoe-makers refuse to do any more work. For example James Taylor, who specialise bespoke orthopaedic shoes, do external repair work and although they do not have the last, they do a good quality job; they are more expensive than Church's and C&J for resoles (£90).
     


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