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English Shoe Durability in Practice

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by archetypal_yuppie, Jan 23, 2010.

  1. SkinnyGoomba

    SkinnyGoomba Senior member

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    I'm not really seeking hard-wearingness, just appraisals. Also, I'm not a fan of cordovan, and isn't it the case that you resole when the first layer of sole wears out on a double sole? Does that add anything at all, in that case? (In terms of wear, not insulation etc).

    I like the idea of toe taps, but no one has replied regarding whether they violate C&J's or EG's terms about only resoling virgin shoes.


    Well if its any consolation to you, I've been wearing my C&J for RL darlton cordovan tassel loafers 1-2 times weekly for 8mo and they're holding up very well. I have toe taps installed and they look nearly brand new still.

    Yes you have to resole after the 1st sole wears through, they're more comfortable to walk on uneven sidewalks with.
     
  2. archetypal_yuppie

    archetypal_yuppie Senior member

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    Where did you get the toe taps? Just plastic?

    Loafers are the only place I'd experiment with cordovan.
     
  3. SkinnyGoomba

    SkinnyGoomba Senior member

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    Where did you get the toe taps? Just plastic?

    Loafers are the only place I'd experiment with cordovan.


    Plastic, just had a local guy install them. I wore them a bit first, but would have been better off to just install them when new.

    I'm considering these for my next cordovan purchase:

    [​IMG]
     
  4. brandall10

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    What, no durability advantage to double soles? I was considering a double-sole cordovan blucher of some sort for that very reason.
     
  5. benderschweiz

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    Church's will do 3 resoles, need to find out their Royal Collection. From what I have read about Edward Green, it seems like 5.

    There are quality cobblers out there, that could resole the shoes after the shoe-makers refuse to do any more work. For example James Taylor, who specialise bespoke orthopaedic shoes, do external repair work and although they do not have the last, they do a good quality job; they are more expensive than Church's and C&J for resoles (£90).


    Does each resoling affect the structural integrity of the shoe? Why would there be a limit on the number of times a goodyear welted shoe could be resoled?
     
  6. upnorth

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    As I was told, each re-soling (where the welts are not rebuilt) as opposed to a proper recrafting would require part of the original welt to be cut down slightly so that they are the same size as the new soles. Some companies cut a wider welt while others prefer a closer one which may look a little more elegant or sleek.

    This wearing down of the original welt would make it closer to the upper until such time when the welts are no longer structurally sound enough or do not have the requisite area to support the soles or the upper. 3-4 sounds about right, although an incompetent cobbler could spell premature disaster.
     
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    I'm considering these for my next cordovan purchase:

    [​IMG]


    Those are fantastic. [​IMG] Details? I presume they are Aldens.
     
  9. NORE

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    Those are fantastic. [​IMG] Details? I presume they are Aldens.
    [​IMG]
     
  10. bhall41

    bhall41 Senior member

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    [​IMG]

    What?
     
  11. laufer

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    What?

    Those are well known Ralph Lauren Darltons. It is assumed that every member of SF knows/wants/has a pair of these
     
  12. upnorth

    upnorth Senior member

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    Well, you've spent two years on SF in vain.
     
  13. Ich_Dien

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    Those are fantastic. [​IMG] Details? I presume they are Aldens.

    Made by C&J.
     
  14. inimitable

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    Made by C&J.

    Does C&J (or another manufacturer) make their own equivalent. Not too keen on paying £620 from polo.com even if they are cordovan...

    Edit: The ones on polo.com arent even cordovan [​IMG]
     
  15. bhall41

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    Those are well known Ralph Lauren Darltons. It is assumed that every member of SF knows/wants/has a pair of these
    Nice to see we are all individuals here. [​IMG] As a matter of fact, Ralph Lauren doesn't have a big presence in Australia and not many of their shoes are stocked.
     
  16. bhall41

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    Made by C&J.

    Thank you for clarifying. I had assumed Alden given they were cordovan.
     
  17. NOBD

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    Great avatar, bhall.
     
  18. bhall41

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    Well, you've spent two years on SF in vain.

    I suspect the reason they passed under my radar is because they are Ralph Lauren, for the reason I mention in my previous past.
     
  19. bhall41

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    Great avatar, bhall.

    Cheers, it's the album cover for Small Change by Tom Waits
     
  20. NOBD

    NOBD Senior member

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    Cheers, it's the album cover for Small Change by Tom Waits

    I know, I know. Hence...
     

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