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Depressing post about my future. AKA me looking for career advice

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by mikeman, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. ChicagoRon

    ChicagoRon Senior member

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    Of all the "useless" degrees out there, Communication is probably the most useful.

    Ultimately, to be good at any job, you must be able to communicate (I'm not being facetious here... )

    The issue is that it's not a hard degree to get, so there are lots of folks out there that look like your equal on paper. If you can prove you are a good communicator, and that your education has given you some advantage, you will be able to find lots of interesting work. But that is not going to be easy to prove.
     
  2. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    OP, you forgot to include at the end of your post, "I am the 99%".
     
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  3. Liam O

    Liam O Senior member

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    I'm in college. I have very expensive tastes. I buy nice non-consumables second hand if they're in good shape, and I barter for high end consumables with goods and services I can provide or have access too. I'll occasionally trade cigars for scotch (I work in a cigar store). I really wanted venison recently, and a friend had just taken a deer. I traded two old (but great quality and in good condition) cardigans to another guy for a NWT Orvis Loch Leven suede hunting vest, and traded that to the friend for 12 pounds of choice venison steaks, which I'm now finding lots of fun ways to cook and eat :)

    So far my favorite was the Cornish Venison Pot Pasty that the little lady invented. They were f*cking delicious.

    You can always find a way to get what you want, its just predicated on finding something they need that you have.
     
  4. bringusingoodale

    bringusingoodale Senior member

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    Just go get a vocational degree.
     
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  5. Reevolving

    Reevolving Senior member

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    I see you've been on SF about the entire time you've been in college. 4 years.

    Did you piss your 4 years of college posting on a clothing forum?
    Did you spend any student loan money on clothes, shoes, etc?
    In fact, can you give us a grand total on the amount of money you've wasted on clothing while you were a broke student?

    Expensive tastes? Expensive tastes?
    You're a unemployed college kid (who MIGHT get a $30k job)
    You sound like an complete idiot.

    Now, it's time to pay the piper.
    Truth hurts.
     
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    globetrotter Senior member

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    +1
     
  7. Macallan9

    Macallan9 Senior member

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    If you have no connections, no skills, and a worthless 0 value added degree yet want a well paying job, you go to law school.
     
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    i_pod_sux Active Member

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    :uhoh:
     
  9. munchausen

    munchausen Senior member

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    And then you will have two worthless 0 value added degrees plus another 6 figures in debt.

    Spending that time honing your sales skills or in a low paying apprenticeship in a lucrative industry is a better use of your time right now, believe me. ANYTHING is a better choice than law school.
     
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    Joffrey Senior member

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    :slayer:
     
  11. Liam O

    Liam O Senior member

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    Network Network Network

    Thats what you do. My main job is service industry, my degree, when completed, will be largely useless, and I don't have any particularly unique marketable skills.

    But I used my service industry job to access networks made up of affluent people in positions of power. I've got six standing job offers for when I graduate (if I decide against grad school) that are more or less guaranteed if I apply, all pay 60+k a year and have benefits, in a number of different fields.

    I'm not saying this to brag, but to help you.

    Networking will do more for you than skills, competency or education ever will. You just have to find a door and jam your foot in it til it opens.
     
  12. bringusingoodale

    bringusingoodale Senior member

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    What is exactly is networking?

    It seems to have secured job offers you must have developed some sort of rapport beyond the compulsory etiquette.
     
  13. Liam O

    Liam O Senior member

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    Definitely.

    Realistically, all my job entailed (before I was made manager) was knowing the product, helping people pick it, and ringing them up.

    What I've made a point of doing is getting to know my regulars, their businesses, and their interests. I pay close attention to all of my customers, I take the best care of them I can. Little things like letting them stay a bit late, occasionally giving someone a cigar I paid for, stocking the odd bottle of mediocre whisky (my boss doesn't generally maintain a liquor locker). Little things like that impress people a disproportionate amount. Likewise, taking an interest and asking questions in their area of expertise is a great way to make people think you're smarter than you are, and like you more than they should.

    If one of my more affluent customers just moved, and is looking for a painter, or landscaper, or roofer, I'll recommend another customer or friend who I feel is particularly passionate or professional in that field based on my observations during my interaction with them.

    There are a number of examples of situations where someone was wanting for something, and I knew someone reliable who could offer that good or service. It is key that both parties are reliable, broker bad deals and you'll be known as a bullshitter. I also make a point of never mentioning or expecting a finders fee.

    If you do your job well, and it obvious that you're motivated, and keep people indebted to you, they'll likely pull whatever strings they have available to help you out down the road. If I refuse a 500$ finders fee now, they'll think they owe me a favor when a job opening I'm reasonably close to qualified for comes due in their company. I'll take a shot at a high paying job over a few hundred dollars 9 times out of 10.

    Basically, make friends, be nice, do what you can for other people, and make sure they're the right people. If you do that, some of them will go out of their way to take care of you too.
     
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    OP try banking, personal bankers start around 40K + bonus, its more sales than finance but u get to wear nice suits that you enjoy :D
     
  15. patrickBOOTH

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    Unless you work at Chase bank and have to wear black suits with that horrible shade of blue shit underneath. I always say to myself when I walk in the place that if I ever were to work at a commercial bank I wouldn't work at Chase based on thier color scheme alone. Horrible, just horrible.
     
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    there are no rules about what color suit to wear
     
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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Well, they all need help. That horrible shade of blue is the pits.
     
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    Right now, with a communications degree and little work experience, I'd see if I could get into an entry level marketing position with a software company. There's almost always a shortage of workers in Silicon Valley, but it feels like we're getting back into a hiring frenzy like the early 2000s.

    Make use of alumni network, friends, family, whatever connections you have to find out about companies and openings. A LinkedIn account is definitely key. Line up a job before you move if at all possible. Can you afford to be an unpaid intern for three months? That's about the best way possible to get your foot in the door.
     
  19. Steve Smith

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    I have a hard time feeling sympathetic to someone who gets a college degree and THEN suddenly wakes up and realizes that his field of study: pays jack shit / has no jobs available / is not fulfilling / is not in line with his wonderful talents / (insert complaint here).

    In fact, all of you precious little delicate flowers piss me off.

    Want some advice? Go work in the fucking oil or gas fields in the midwest or the Gulf of Mexico. Or just get off your ass and do something.

    Damn! I feel better now.
     
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