Depressing post about my future. AKA me looking for career advice

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by mikeman, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    I know several people who have worked on oil rigs in adminstrative positions, made good money and matured.

    a little danger is a good thing for a young man, espectially one like the OP. try the army, an oil field, something like that. good luck.
     


  2. bringusingoodale

    bringusingoodale Senior member

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    Everyone suggests this everywhere, in books, in articles, advice columns. But from my own experience and from what I hear, there seem to be no internship opportunities for non-students. I hear about the advice for career changers to do an internship as well, maybe the have better luck but I doubt. If there are internships for non-students, they are probably just as hard to get as a job you'd like to start off in.
     


  3. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    In my opinion it seems like there are tons of internships out there, but it is just as hard to get hired from being an intern. Seems like a lot of people I know are career interns.

    FWIW, I would look for companies that hire interns that have a degree. That is what I did at my current company. They paid me at a 10% discount for a while and made me jump through hoops and almost act like a student, but it paid off.
     
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  4. Steve Smith

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    I see no reason to think he is incapable of physical labor. Why does he need white collar? In the oil patch you need to stay alert and do as your trained. Dangerous? Life is dangerous.
     


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    Why does he need a white collar job? Just because he graduated college? If he wants to pay for his self described expensive tastes, then oil field services work is a good way to do it. Steve Smith threw the OFS suggestion out there and I just responded with how much those guys make. Right now, the OP sounds like he wants a fun, exciting, high paying job straight out of college. Unfortunately those don't exist.

    FYI. I have a friend that works in OFS and does nothing but drive a truck to and from drilling sites transporting sand. I doubt that's really dangerous. While he doesn't make 6 figures working 80-90 hours a week, he still makes in the $45-$55,000 range.
     


  6. Piobaire

    Piobaire Not left of center?

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    This needs a shout out.

    I have a friend with a Ph.D. in communications. Seems to me he had to take a great deal of stats courses. Can you do stats? Maybe move into something quantitative?
     


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    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
     


  8. bringusingoodale

    bringusingoodale Senior member

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    Yes, if you notice, I was referring to non-student internships only. I know there are tons of student internships, but for non-students i.e. those with a degree, I rarely see any postings or hear about these. And I would imagine why since I figure there may be no incentive for companies to get interns, probably more work for them and little rewards. And then there is always the "if you were good enough for us, we'd have hired you"

    And like I said, it seems to get an internship with a degree is just as hard to get a crummy job somewhere, so I realize why many people don't bother, especially if money is an issue. Curious to how you got your internship as a non-student? Did the place have a posting for internships, did you solicit an internship, did you "network" your way into a conversation with someone to get an internship?
     


  9. Piobaire

    Piobaire Not left of center?

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    I don't know. Drive a new 'Vette, drinks good wine, seems to be happy. Does research in language re-acquisition after TBI, CVA, etc. Good stuff.
     


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    Unless i missed something, working at an oil rig requires him to move away and is dangerous. Also i am pretty sure without prior experience that he won't get hired to work on an oil rig because of said dangers. Thus, your advice to him is not helpful. If it is and he decides to work on an oil field, well then my bad.
     


  11. Steve Smith

    Steve Smith Senior member

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    You missed something.

    1. He didn't say he couldn't move.
    2. You can get hired in the oil fields with no oil field experience.
    3. If you read my post you can understand that my primary advice is to get off his ass and do something.
     
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  12. Teger

    Teger Senior member

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    if he's a type 1 diabetic his #1 concern should be finding a job with good health insurance. period. working on an oil rig is a stupid fucking idea.
     


  13. Gibonius

    Gibonius Senior member

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    Also means he can't join the military, which shoots down all those suggestions.

    He should be able to stay on his parent's insurance for awhile, which somewhat mitigates the insurance issue.
     


  14. Teger

    Teger Senior member

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    in most states he'll get booted at 26.

    also wtf lifestyle are you living where 30k isn't enough? you still haven't explained that.
     


  15. Liam O

    Liam O Senior member

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    in the northeast 30k would be about the real poverty line.
     


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