Critique my shirt!

[a tailor]

first go wash your face. he he he

the waist length seems too long. that is the distance from the neck bone to your true waist. this makes the shirt pull out from the trousers. because the waist of the shirt is hitting on your hips not at your waist.
this should be measured from the neck bone down to the middle of your belt.
if you are being measured for a jacket or a shirt, this should be included.
the hips look a bit snug, about 1" each side.
a bit hard to tell but it looks like you have a right low shoulder and a right hip higher.
cant tell how much it should be measured.

 

[Shirtmaven]

Mr. Ludlow
I do not want to imply that I am telling you how to run your business.
I hope I post this picture properly. I did this fitting on Saturday. this fellow has very wide, sloping shoulders that also pitch forward. (it did not work. I will have to read the sticky) The customer was pleased but I was not. I will try to fix this shirt as best as possible by taking the collar off and removing excess fabric. pull some fabric back below the yoke. It will not be perfect but wearable. I am cutting a new shirt. I am changing the legth and width of the yoke. as well as a few other minor details.
It is a tad unfair of Holdfast to post these photos without giving you the chance to work on the shirt on your own. Your pricing is fair. the next shirt should fit even better.
Carl

 

[Holdfast]

Originally Posted by Shirtmaven

It is a tad unfair of Holdfast to post these photos without giving you the chance to work on the shirt on your own.

I'm not sure why this is so, but apologise if I've breached some obscure shirt etiquette rule!

This is the first shirt of an order.

I was not planning on getting this specific shirt revised and am happy with both the service & price and have stated as much in the thread already!

I wanted a critique of this shirt's fit in order to benefit from the varied opinion of members here to help INFORM my feedback to the shirtmaker for the next shirts in the rest of the order.

It's no different in my opinion to someone posting a pic of ANY finished item (a jacket, a pair of trousers, a hat, or a pair of shoes) and then asking for advice as to how to finesse things for future orders. This is something that is a regular occurence on these boards and I cannot see how my post is different.

As for naming the shirtmaker, again, I cannot see how there is any problem in doing so, especially since nearly all the commentary - including mine, may I add! - has been encouraging and positive and I intend to complete the rest of the order once the feedback process is completed and probably get further shirts in future.

I don't think I've been unfair to anyone here. Again, this thread was about getting feedback to inform my changes for future orders, not about complaining and in fact I've pointed out repeatedly that I am not unhappy with any of the service, fit (considering this is the first iteration) or price. Just that I want to perfect the fit further in the future.

 

[bowtielover]

I think it's a great fit even better with the tie on.

 

[Sator]

Originally Posted by a tailor

the waist length seems too long. that is the distance from the neck bone to your true waist. this makes the shirt pull out from the trousers. because the waist of the shirt is hitting on your hips not at your waist.
this should be measured from the neck bone down to the middle of your belt.
if you are being measured for a jacket or a shirt, this should be included.

I don't really understand measuring and drafting for shirts, but are shirts drafted so that there is a natural and fashion waist, as with coats? I can certainly appreciate how that may be the case for a darted shirt.

And, how is the pattern for the yoke manipulated according to the posture of the client?

Lastly, Mr Ludlow need not be concerned about the critiques offered here. As Holdfast has said, it is his first order and that it represents a vast improvement over RTW anyway. I think you will notice that this thread helps to bring in a few more interested customers.

 

[Shirtmaven]

Holdfast
My point is that this shirt was produced from measurements taken by a shirtmaker.
the shirtmaker may have seen some things that they wanted to change/fix in the very first fitting.

this as not a mail order shirt.
the postings on the forum, offer all sorts of conflicting ideas. I think it is best to allow the finished product to be determined through discussion between the customer and shirtmaker.
I am not saying you should not post photos of the finished product. Just that shirt #2 from Mr. Ludlow would fit even better.
maybe you should have waited until Mr Ludlow had seen you in the shirt.
Just my thoughts.
You are on your way to a well fitting shirt.
Carl

 

[sartorialexecutive]

Originally Posted by Shirtmaven

Mr. Ludlow
I do not want to imply that I am telling you how to run your business.
I hope I post this picture properly. I did this fitting on Saturday. this fellow has very wide, sloping shoulders that also pitch forward. (it did not work. I will have to read the sticky) The customer was pleased but I was not. I will try to fix this shirt as best as possible by taking the collar off and removing excess fabric. pull some fabric back below the yoke. It will not be perfect but wearable. I am cutting a new shirt. I am changing the legth and width of the yoke. as well as a few other minor details.
It is a tad unfair of Holdfast to post these photos without giving you the chance to work on the shirt on your own. Your pricing is fair. the next shirt should fit even better.
Carl

Carl, Your comments are very much appreciated, especially as I know that your service and products are held in very high regard on this (and other forums).

However, I will add I have no absolutely no issue with Holdfast posting the pictures here as the subscribers here are likely to look for the same things in terms of fit etc as Holdfast - they share his passion for clothing - and this is a great place to get feedback which will enable Holdfast and myself to work together to improve his next shirt .