M, is that a sweatshirt or a sweater? Sweatshirt. By the same measure, $800 pants should not be used to play dress-down. Uhh, why not? Please. Wait, so you do think that wearing a tie and pocket square automatically make a person better dressed? If that it is the common sentiment around here, it sheds a lot of light. Except you're doing it wrong. There's nothing stylish about that outfit. Clearly we disagree.