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Pretty harsh stuff.Listen to one GM talk about Marion: "Our team thinks Marion is still one of the top 10 players in the league. He's so good defensively. He reminds me a bit of Ron Artest back when he was playing well in Indiana. On any given night he could go out there and shut down the opposing team's best player. Marion is so long, athletic and quick, he can guard just about anyone. Add in his offense and I think he's one of the most valuable players in the league."
And Shaq? Said the same GM: "He can't guard anyone. He can't get up and down the floor. You'd expect a desperate team like the Knicks or Nets to make a move for Shaq ... but the Suns? I still can't believe it. They are making a huge mistake. Trading Marion for Shaq will destroy that team, not only this year, but for years to come. I'm sure [Lakers owner] Jerry Buss and [Mavericks owner] Mark Cuban are thrilled."
A hockey boy, eh? The NHL is so confusing these days with all the moves. Sucks to be the one team that doesn't make them.
Marion is more suited for guarding the perimeter big men and rangy small forwards than he is guys who pound it like odom, bynum(well at least against the suns, smart phil always makes him do this) or do crazy quick 2guards like kobe. I don't believe it makes him overrated as it's asking way too much to ask him to be a complete lockdown player on every position. The thing is, he can guard all of them competently, and some positions at an elite level. Just like Ben Wallace was an elite defender when guarding down low bigs, but struggled a bit with guys who would bring him up high. Same with Ron Artest, bruce bowen and other lock down defenders.
There's a reason Raja Bell gets the Kobe assignment every Suns-Lakers matchup - and as far back as I could recall, whenever Bell leaves the game Kobe would just destroy the Suns.
From what I watched he didn't wait till Bell went to the bench.
Marion is more suited for guarding the perimeter big men and rangy small forwards than he is guys who pound it like odom, bynum(well at least against the suns, smart phil always makes him do this) or do crazy quick 2guards like kobeOriginally Posted by chronoaug
There has yet to be a "kobe stopper"
How many semi-decent point forward are there anyway?
Besides, usually fast breaks aren't 5 on 5, so the Suns can still pick their spots when to run or not.
People keep pointing this out, that they can just leave Shaq behind when they run. But it effectively means they're running 4 on 5 or at the least 4 on 4 when they used to have all 5 guys with the ability to get out on the break. The beauty of the Suns was that their "center" was Amare, who is fast and quick and will finish on anybody and would get down the court for the pass from Nash. And then from down on Marion, Jones, etc. were all at least as fast. Now you just added one guy who isn't going to get back down the floor, and there is no way they aren't going to have a reduced ability to run anyway. Not to mention that Marion was often the first guy down the court.