Barack Obama on "nice suits"

rjmaiorano · May 26, 2008

Originally Posted by tiecollector

Especially these days where college is the new high school.
Exactly. Even the elite institutions have foolish students at them. They follow all sorts of people/ideas/groups with such blind acceptance it is frightening. Obama and his rather empty eloquence being no exception.

blackplatano · May 26, 2008

Originally Posted by TheFusilliJerry

blackplantano, i'm not sure, are you an obama supporter? you haven't made it clear

What are you really saying? Speak your mind.

Originally Posted by rjmaiorano

Bad news for you. College kids are probably the most ignorant, closed minded group of people I have ever met. I say this devoid of anything else mentioned in the thread.

Not really. I think people get more close minded as they age.
They might not agree with your opinions, but college kids as a whole are far more open to new ideas than middle age adults, whose believes are almost set in stone.

rjmaiorano · May 26, 2008

Originally Posted by blackplatano

Not really. I think people get more close minded as they age.
They might not agree with your opinions, but college kids as a whole are far more open to new ideas than middle age adults, whose believes are almost set in stone.

I would agree. I suppose I misspoke to their close mindedness. But I'll say this not because I have any more faith in college students, but because society and other factors, particularly time, tend to close minds and create idealogues.

SkinnyGoomba · May 26, 2008

Originally Posted by blackplatano

This whole post is bullshit. 1. It has nothing to do with middle/low class, he is saying to help others instead of chasing after money. Is that so hard to understand? There is no talk of evil riches. 2. His house/wealth is irrelevant. irrelevant. He could be a drug dealer selling coke to other senators while ******* lara bush on the side. If a republican then is found sniffing coke with a hooker, and Obama says it's a horrible thing, he would still be right. It would make him a hypocrite, but he is still right. The person making the comment does not reflect the validity of a statement. In this case, Obama has to have a senator's salary to make a change in the world, so I see no problem. 3. The college part is silly. This isn't the 60/70's. Apperently, you haven't heard of business school.
To each his own, and i think its hypocritical coming from someone obviously doing very well for himself, not that i hold that against anyone, i dont. The person making the statement has everything to do with the statement itself. I could go around stating true-isms all day, but if they had nothing to do with my lifestyle it would be hypocritical. I'm IN business school, i think you need to learn to respect that other people have opinions. I dont know how long its been since you've been in college, but i would say, being in college and working i know more about the current state of opinions held by college kids then someone who isnt in college. But i could be wrong.

Dewey · May 26, 2008

Getting back to Obama's comment, I think he disses "nice suits" to deflect criticism that's he's a dandy.

SkinnyGoomba · May 26, 2008

that could certainly be it!

blackplatano · May 26, 2008

Originally Posted by Dewey

Getting back to Obama's comment, I think he disses "nice suits" to deflect criticism that's he's a dandy.

I don't think it's really about the suit. "The suit" is just the vehicle he uses to make a point. It's just that since this is a fashion forum, the emphasis is placed on clothes.

Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba

To each his own, and i think its hypocritical coming from someone obviously doing very well for himself, not that i hold that against anyone, i dont.
The person making the statement has everything to do with the statement itself.

I could go around stating true-isms all day, but if they had nothing to do with my lifestyle it would be hypocritical.

I'm IN business school, i think you need to learn to respect that other people have opinions.

I dont know how long its been since you've been in college, but i would say, being in college and working i know more about the current state of opinions held by college kids then someone who isnt in college.
But i could be wrong.

I respect you opinion.

You must understand that if a killer says killing is wrong, that does not invalidate his valid statement. It would only make him a hypocrite.
Obama is not a hypocrite for saying what he said, but even if he was, his statement is valid because the validity is not affected by the person putting forth the claim.

What I said above is not open to opinion. It is in every logic/ critical thinking textbook. I suggest taking a critical thinking class, it's one of those classes that are actually useful in life.

Also, I work but i'm also in college. So yea...

SkinnyGoomba · May 26, 2008

With all due respect, i dont need to take a class on thinking to hold my own opinion on subjects, i appreciate the suggestion.
Brian

RyJ Maduro · May 26, 2008

Originally Posted by Bradford

FYI - Obama didn't just talk about suits in his remarks to the graduates...

Originally Posted by Barry

It's because you have an obligation to yourself, because our individual salvation depends on our collective salvation

Salvation? Leave the preaching to the pastors.

I can't stand hearing this jackass extoll the virtues of such a trivial relic of an organization as the Peace Corps during a time of war... we're trying to get recruiting up and he's telling his little minions to join the Peace Corps?

Shows where his priorities are.

blackplatano · May 26, 2008

Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba

With all due respect, i dont need to take a class on thinking to hold my own opinion on subjects, i appreciate the suggestion.
Brian

It was not meant to suggest that you can't think or anything offensive. It's a class that I think everybody should take.

slycedbred · May 26, 2008

Originally Posted by tiecollector

Especially these days where college is the new high school.

has college ever not been the new high school?

rjmaiorano · May 26, 2008

Originally Posted by slycedbred

has college ever not been the new high school?

Yes. When college was college and egalitarianism wasn't the name of the game. When, if you sucked, college told you you sucked. Now they flower it up and give you a C, and then a degree.

philosophe · May 26, 2008

Undergraduate education is devolving into customer service.

I think Obama wears Canali.

Nashville · May 26, 2008

Originally Posted by blackplatano

This whole post is bullshit.
1. It has nothing to do with middle/low class, he is saying to help others instead of chasing after money. Is that so hard to understand? There is no talk of evil riches.

2. His house/wealth is irrelevant. irrelevant. He could be a drug dealer selling coke to other senators while ******* lara bush on the side. If a republican then is found sniffing coke with a hooker, and Obama says it's a horrible thing, he would still be right. It would make him a hypocrite, but he is still right. The person making the comment does not reflect the validity of a statement. In this case, Obama has to have a senator's salary to make a change in the world, so I see no problem.

3. The college part is silly. This isn't the 60/70's. Apperently, you haven't heard of business school.

in other words washington will still be in better shape if the republics continue to screw prostitutes and chase young males through the senate house begging for gay sex.

bingusa · May 26, 2008

Is this a post belonging to the directory Style Forum > Men's Style > Men's Clothing. I thought I was in wrong directory

Peace.

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