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The WAYWT Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Eason, Feb 1, 2010.

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  1. NachoBroadway

    NachoBroadway Senior member

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    those sneakers are nice, look great with light washed jeans
     
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    that's my favorite adorno essay. so racist and hilarious.
     
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    The recent things I'm more familiar with are more along the american spectrum: dreyfus, haugeland, rorty, that kind of thing, and also the pragmatists, mainly peirce.

    Contemporary philosophy is harder to get into, because it builds off of early 20th century philosophy, which builds off of modern philosophy (kant nietzsche etc.), and so it takes a lot of familiarity with the subject to appreciate fully.
     
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    as cliche as it is, I really enjoy nietzsche. most philosophy ive read as a political slant.
     
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    guys i know about antigen-presenting cells. you wanna discus the false dichotomy of the M1 and M2 phenotypes?

    But seriously, what's a good intro to leisure philisophy? I don't care about sprouting off names etc., I'd just like to read something interesting.
     
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  6. hoozah

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    I was about to ask the same question.
     
  7. Teger

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    probably a philosophy 101 textbook or the philosophy article on wikipedia.
     
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    kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions could be good also, if you want to read something relevant that's not a textbook
     
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  9. BreezyBirch

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    any webshops have those ann sneaks? link plz?
     
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    Kuhn, the relativist...

    Buffy and Philosophy. That's your way in. :lurk:
     
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    ...because it's a novel. Little unfair to the others, dontcha think? :D

    But I agree, what should feel rote and didactic is actually a pleasure. Love that book.
     
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    I've been trying to finish the atlas shrugged for years and I feel compelled to finish everything I start, but its just so fucking bad. Its a giant rayndian masterbation, nothing happens, character too simple. Its the worst. Last month I did go through all of hemmingway I think old man and the sea > sun also rises > for whom the bell tolls > a farewell to arms. Next month I start on jean jacques rousseaus confessions which I'll be reading in french and will be taking me a little longer than usual
     
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    I've been wanting to get started on econ stuff for a while—any suggestions? I'm guessing Keynes is probably a good place to start, but if anyone mentions a specific text I'd feel far more encouraged. (Teger, the book that you mentioned on the French Languedoc sounds pretty cool, might check that out.)

    Also, it's just really fascinating how many people here are into philosophy. Is it a hobby? a former (or even ongoing) field of study? an occupation? Whatever the case, there's something really cool and unusual about the intersection of obscure designer fashion and discursive philosophical texts.

    I've only really, really recently been introduced to texts like Derrida, Zizek, Lacan, etc. First year of school, I thought I wanted to be an engineer (I fucking hated it). Sophomore year began a year-and-a-half bout of depression that, remarkably, didn't ruin my grades. Basically I just took classes and was very stressed and passed with good grades, but was too stressed to be more than slightly present in any of those classes (although I did get really, really into reading Ulysses and Gravity's Rainbow and DFW). Junior year—this year—I took a seminar called "Literary Theory," taught by my now-advisor. This is basically where I figured out that I enjoy the more philosophically oriented texts—psychoanalysis, postmodernism, deconstruction, queer theory, etc. The reading list was terrific, and I got through a ton of texts, but there's only so much that can be read in one semester. Right now, I'm basically waiting for a summer research project to start so that I can read through a bunch more shit and work on constructing a thesis-to-be with my advisor. My reading list is gonna contain stuff like: Adorno, Schelling, Zizek, Lacan, Butler, Halberstam, Sedgwick, Bersani, more queer theorists, Foucault, Deleuze, Spivak, maybe some Zupancic, maybe some Marx and Hegel, etc.

    I'm just really curious as to how you guys got into this stuff, what your relationship to it is like now, and, well, stuff. :embar:
     
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    I think Hills Like White Elephants could be the greatest Hemingway ever.

    Also, What is Enlightenment is not really that bad a place to start.
     
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    asked my english teacher for "more difficult" reading in 8th grade, he gave me kant's critique of pure reason, that book seriously fucked me up
     
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    Keynes on "General theory of employment"
    Adam Smith - "Wealth of Nations"
    David Ricardo - "Principles of Political Economy and Taxation"
    FA Hayek - "Road to Serfdom"
    Ohlin - "inside" "signs and wonders"
    J S Mills - "Utilitarianism"
    Milton Friedman - "capitalism and freedom"


    majored in econ so it came naturally, but its something that stays with you, as you read more and more you realize how much of it is bs, but without reading adam smith you can really get keynes and you can't get hayek (even though he destroys keynes) without reading keynes. I think ohlin is the most modern on the list and his theories on the frameworks of trade are the most interesting. Ricardo also writes on trade theory and that is the basis that heckshir and ohlin used to make their own framework.
     
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    The abortion talk is intriguing, but Hemingway made that beer sound so refreshing that I have trouble staying focused on anything else. And I don't even much care for beer.
     
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