Son Of Saphir
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Put away the camera zoom and enjoy your new shoes.Ive finally had some time to properly inspect my new Budapesters and on second inspection, I must say I’m quite disappointed with the quality. There are black stains around the front of the shoe and the brogue wings have been cut poorly that it looks as if it’s damaged. I’ve emailed Vass twice and have had no reply from them.
Do you think the black stains are removable and Am I being too pedantic about the brogue wings? These are my first hand welted shoes and needless to say they were not cheap so I was expecting much better quality control than this.
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Put away the camera zoom and enjoy your new shoes.
Here is my F last tan oxford photographed new 14 years ago.
They have the watermark and stains like yours.
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My tan 3636 last are the same with watermarks and black marks.
Many of my Lattanzi shoe also have the marks.
My Gaziano & Girling also have the marks
My Edward Green also have some marks
My Stefano Bemer also have alittle of the marks
Why?
Me thinks it when they use the buffing wheel to polish the heels and sides of soles,
the stain from the buffing brush rub off on the upper.
The electric buffing brush needed to get the high shine sole/heel edge,
it hard to avoid.
They try to rub it off and hence the water mark.
The John Lobb also have it.
The Santoni bentivegna and norvegese also have it.
THEY ALL HAVE IT!!!
You look and you see it,
on all the great shoes of the world.
Can see the big watermark.
With polishes it should become less noticeable over time.
Calm down, mate. I think most of the people referring to the "Vass charm" do it tongue in cheek.That's not a watermark and it doesn't polish out. I've had something similar with a pair of Vass.
"Hopefully it polishes away" is not an acceptable situation for a new pair of shoes from any decent brand.
People seem to take my criticisms of Vass' QA failures as personal attacks on them for some reason. They're not. You're not Vass (I think), and frankly defending a company that you give money to seems counterintuitive to me. You should at least be paid for PR work like this!
Calm down, mate. I think most of the people referring to the "Vass charm" do it tongue in cheek.
For most people, the defects described are either unimportant or not visible after a couple of wears and polish, thus nothing to be bothered with.
There's a reason Vass offers a great/the greatest value proposition on the market. Corners need to be cut somewhere. In my experience, Vass CS has handled issues like this exemplary if you get in touch with them.
Most Vass customers are customers mainly because of the value proposition, me included. If you're looking for something else, maybe you should be looking elsewhere. And I say that in the polite at way possible. There are shoe makers that have many more people employed in the QC department thst might offer a better product for you based on your preferences.
I'll consider 6 pairs to be enough experience, maybe you won't.
Anyways, to the original poster feel free to not smoke the copium of brand fan boys, and trust your gut. If you were here to find a supporting opinion for your situation, you be hard pressed to find it in the "I love Vass" thread. I'm just an anomaly because I own a lot of brands.
If you truly care then you can care as much as you want and act accordingly. If someone wants to pay $600 and get a garbage experience and garbage shoes then it's their money and they can do so. If they want to pay $4000 they can do that too.I really don’t understand the indifference to defects on a 400+ euro shoe here. For me, the reason I would buy a 400 euro shoe over a 200 euro shoe is the attention to the finer details… otherwise what are you paying for? I have tan 100 euro brogues that have better cuts on the wings and no staining, is that too much to ask for on a shoe that costs four times more?