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They are unmistakably English. However for some reason they always seem to photograph more badly than they deserve. They look way better in person and in larger sizes than smaller ones.
 

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Gents, I'm considering getting one of the following for a first ideal business casual shoe. I expect to wear it with jeans and chinos.

Cognac scotch grain Norweger from NMWA
vassho005_1_2.jpg


Cognac Double Monk in U Last MTO from Vass
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Which do you suggest I get? I am leaning towards the double monk as I travel quite a bit and enjoy the ability to slip my shoes on and off, but would like to solicit your opinion.
 

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Gents, I'm considering getting one of the following for a first ideal business casual shoe. I expect to wear it with jeans and chinos.

Cognac scotch grain Norweger from NMWA
vassho005_1_2.jpg

Cognac Double Monk in U Last MTO from Vass
1064-f-cognac_calf-single_sole.jpg

Which do you suggest I get? I am leaning towards the double monk as I travel quite a bit and enjoy the ability to slip my shoes on and off, but would like to solicit your opinion.


I'm not a fan of DMs with denim. I have those Norwegers and they are my favorite pair of shoes. Awesome for casual wear and can also easily be worn with a SC.
 

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Gents, I'm considering getting one of the following for a first ideal business casual shoe. I expect to wear it with jeans and chinos.

Cognac scotch grain Norweger from NMWA
vassho005_1_2.jpg

Cognac Double Monk in U Last MTO from Vass
1064-f-cognac_calf-single_sole.jpg

Which do you suggest I get? I am leaning towards the double monk as I travel quite a bit and enjoy the ability to slip my shoes on and off, but would like to solicit your opinion.


I'm in an SF minority but I don't like Norwegers (or split toes generally, or Derby's....or loafers for that matter). That said, if DMs fit properly you shouldn't be able to slip them off - and unbuckling isn't really easier than untying in airport security. I also travel a great deal and not having to remove my shoes at the airport is the best thing about not living in the US.
 

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That Vass Norweger is a classic, especially in the cognac grain. The cognac calf dbl monk is nothing special, IMHO it has no depth to the color, and I have a pair
 

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Gents, I'm considering getting one of the following for a first ideal business casual shoe. I expect to wear it with jeans and chinos.

Cognac scotch grain Norweger from NMWA
vassho005_1_2.jpg


Cognac Double Monk in U Last MTO from Vass
1064-f-cognac_calf-single_sole.jpg


Which do you suggest I get? I am leaning towards the double monk as I travel quite a bit and enjoy the ability to slip my shoes on and off, but would like to solicit your opinion.
 
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No, I haven't, but I think it might be a bit too overwhelming with the captoe and the double straps.
 

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I think Hazwanazni spot on with his recommendation. No doubt there's a touch more workmanship involved with the stitching to the Norweger uppers. They are both great design selected by NMWA - but the DM in Cognac is a touch more versatile with regards to burnishing, and functional if you travel much. Take both pairs if you can :)

"The beautiful thing about cognac is that its light background allows more burnishing options hence, more personalisation. The captoe on the DM would be a great canvas for this, no so much for the norweger. I like both designs but not the stitching of the uppers of this norweger. Ever considered a pair of scotch grain double-monks?"
 

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Which do you suggest I get? I am leaning towards the double monk as I travel quite a bit and enjoy the ability to slip my shoes on and off, but would like to solicit your opinion.
I agree with the gentlemen above who said that if the DMs fit properly, you should not be able to slip into it that easily without unbuckling it. I prefer loafers for flight and travel, just not loafers from Vass. Perhaps the monks you own are those with a slight bit of elastic on the straps that facilitate that without unbuckling the strap

Just to share my personal experience, the Vass monks do not have the elastic component, I have to remove the top buckle to slip on and off the shoe, and I have a low instep so those with higher instep would find it even more challenging. In this regard, it is quite slow to remove and strap the buckle back on. I find that the blucher type split toe would be speedier of the two.
 

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I cannot even contemplate being able to stuff my foot into a fully buckled double monk.  And I wouldn't do it if I could.  Not sure where the notion took root that monks are essentially  loafers, but it's not the first time I've heard it.

I was under the impression that any shoe without laces is considered a loafer.

I'm with you, though, Roger.
 

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