The Ultimate "HARDCORE" Shoe Porn Thread (Bespoke only)

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  1. ThinkDerm

    ThinkDerm Senior member

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    delos. he does it his way.
     


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    Thanks for your input.



    From what I gathered from Google translate was that 2500 euro is for loafers with rubber soles or something similar. His "classic" line of welted shoes start at 3000 euros. There was some talk a couple years ago about trying to get Delos to come to Manhattan but I'm not sure if it came to fruition.

    http://www.styleforum.net/forum/thread/146706/anthony-delos-takes-manhattan/0_20
     


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    ThinkDerm Senior member

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    to my understanding - that never happened. is delos worth 4 times the price of ugolini?
     


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    I haven't seen Ugolini bespoke. I've moved away from typically Italian styled shoes. My shoes are now mostly English or French (actually all except for sneakers and 1 pair of boat shoes).
     


  5. isshinryu101

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    The more I see top quality Italian made shoes, the more I am losing my pre-supposition of what "Italian shoes are".

    The top makers are so versatile that it's very hard to pin a label on them. They can (and do) make shoes that defy a "standard" label, building on aspects of all kinds of different styles (including English & Vintage US).
     


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    I want to make this perfectly clear: I am happy for none of you! Purely envious and jealous... no other feelings.


    But seriously though, this thread =:slayer:
     


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    Did Ugolini become cheaper and didnt tell me??
     


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    DWFII rocking post - agree w you . Almost exact same shoe in last and style and leather can look 100 per cent better in hands of master. can see it in Vass, for example. 10+ makers there, along with the clickers etc and some are better than others. The best always seem to be saying 'i want this to be as perfect as poss' and don't stop til it is.
     


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    Most people are better at one thing than another. I don't see the benefit of asking a maker to make something outside their specialty unless there is no other choice.
     


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    First price is 3'000 euros for a pair with leather soles
     
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  11. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Senior member

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    I don't understand this. If their specialty is "making beautiful shoes", then why should the subtleties of last shape, welt edges, and detailing make any difference?
     


  12. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Of course, that's what "bespoke" is about.

    But having said that, bespoke is also a "relationship."A two-way relationship. It's not just demanding and expecting your every wish to be fulfilled.

    Every maker has his own "style"--sensibilities that he will be reluctant to abandon or is perhaps even incapable of abandoning. And no one wants to directly copy someone else's work...it's a matter of integrity...honour even--it's stealing another person's thunder. Shoemaking at this level is more than just lasting and sewing and driving pegs, it is a pursuit of excellence and beauty.

    And that's a very individual quest.
     


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    Bengal stripe is an old man, he didn't take into account that information on the internet could may be not up to date, hhaaaaa :D.:tounge:
     
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  14. poorsod

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    People have different taste. E.g. You seem to like big fancy welts but not everyone shares your taste.

    At the price point of high end bespoke, it is about subtlety and refinement. If you don't notice the differences, might as well go with the cheaper option.

    As DWFII mentioned, relationship is another factor and a topic for a separate discussion.
     


  15. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Senior member

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    this has nothing to do with my statement. but, please note that Big welts and stitching can be found in US vintage, Italian, and UK country shoes. Those styles are deeply ingrained in the history of all 3 regions' shoes. This style is NOT just typically "Italian".


    Silvano lattanzi may disagree with the "subtlety & refinement" part.


    weaggree on this
     


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