The Ultimate "HARDCORE" Shoe Porn Thread (Bespoke only)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by luk-cha, Jul 3, 2010.

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  1. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Senior member

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    questionable how many Church's shoes are good today.
     


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    It is far from "good," in SF standards. It may be good along the lines of Ferragamo, but its construction leaves a lot to be desired and seems to be heading the wrong way as opposed to the right way. I also fail to see your "photograph" logic. If something is attractive, it will look attractive, yet if something is ugly, it will look ugly.
     


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    My point is that shoes are worn and moved about in and comprise only one part of an outfit. They are not stand-alone works of art, which is how they are often presented here. Chiselled-toe shoes by a company like G&G will look great sitting perfectly lit on a velvet cushion, in a way that a pair of Lobbs won't, because the shape of the former is more dramatic. Will a person wearing the G&Gs look better put together? In my opinion, and it's all just opinion, the answer is no.

    My own feeling is that shoes are one of the least important parts of an outfit: they should be high-quality, well-polished, and discreet. I'd rather see somebody who has dark trousers on wearing boring black Loakes than tan Cleverley's which stick out like a sore thumb. Maybe that's why I take the view that I do.
     


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    Well fine - but I'd argue that the reason, say, C&J is infinitely more popular here is not because their shoes are better-made than Church's (even if they are in fact better-made) but because they look a certain way. Nothing wrong with that, but I think that this aesthetic preference exists partly because of "shoe porn" and the type of photo that it entails.
     


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    I'm glad that you recognize that your opinion is inherently your own. Shoes, like anything involving aesthetics, posses a certain individualistic element. I find the shape of the bespoke Lobb, and most British shoes, to be overly boring and "blobby," whereas I prefer a starker look, as seen from G&G, Corthay, etc. To me, the uniqueness gives the shoe an artistic element, much like I would any other piece of art. I can appreciate the beauty of classical artwork, but at some point I go "great, another Jesus." That's how I am with British shoes.
     


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    hendrix Ill-proportioned

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    agree 100%
     


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    Perry Ercolino. We don't see much of his stuff here. He shares space with Ercole in NYC.



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    I've always loved Ercolino's stuff, but he is a classic example of what happens when you lack marketing and CRM acumen.
     


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    Hampton Senior member

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    Never heard of him before...
     


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    hendrix Ill-proportioned

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    I've seen a few pairs of Church's, and I honestly wasn't too impressed by their recent offerings. Their shoes from before the Prada takeover are very nice, and wear very well, but the leather, design and last choices have been less than favourable since the acquisition.
     
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    Sorry, if it helps i'm not from the US :D
     


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    hendrix Ill-proportioned

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    no need to apologise! I just thought it was a very appropriate post right after usctrojans31's
     


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    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    I suspect the issue is, however, that a good many bespoke makers simply don't aspire to marketing acumen. If you understand the impulses that drive a bespoke maker...be they shoemaker or tailor or high-end bamboo rod maker...you know just how inappropriate and even absurd such comments (usctrojans31's) really are. It's an entirely different mind-set.
     
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    Since I don't have any hands on experience with Church shoes I can only go with what I've read or seen somewhere else.

    One hardly see's any Chuch threads appear at the top like C&J and when Church is mentioned generally there is at least one person that questions their quality after the Prada take over. When the quality seems to be questioned this often, I typically go somewhere else.
     
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