The StyleForum Working Hierarchical Suit Quality List (SFWHSQL!)

[AdaminPhilly]

I just want to confirm the Google Spreadsheet is still being updated and Suit Supply is still a 3.

Thanks.

 

[chocsosa]

I just want to confirm the Google Spreadsheet is still being updated and Suit Supply is still a 3.

Thanks.

Their Jort line is fully canvassed, which puts them at a 3 (Most of the brands in the 3 or good category are fully canvassed). I don't think it's a literal ranking, as all of the suits in the 3 range are interchangeable (mostly machine-made and fully canvassed with the only distinguishing factor being the fabrics used), which is why that line stays there. Their mainline stuff that is half-canvassed is in the 2 or satisfactory group.

 

[RapFan]

The problem with taking a pure analytical approach is that you don't get to actually feel the suits and realize why suit supply does not belong in that category. Not all canvassing is equal not all machine made suits are equal either, there's so much more that goes into them.

Anyone who's handled a Pal Zileri suit knows that is is leagues above the best that Suitsupply has to offer. It's not close at all

 

[pomor]

Their Jort line is fully canvassed, which puts them at a 3 (Most of the brands in the 3 or good category are fully canvassed). I don't think it's a literal ranking, as all of the suits in the 3 range are interchangeable (mostly machine-made and fully canvassed with the only distinguishing factor being the fabrics used), which is why that line stays there. Their mainline stuff that is half-canvassed is in the 2 or satisfactory group.

For what it's worth, Jort is now discontinued. SS's newest hirarchy is more confusing than it used to be now

 

[AdaminPhilly]

Exactly. The working guide here is out of date regarding Suit Supply. I am a bit new to this so sorry if I sound confusing. It appears they no longer have red or purple or any lines like that. Additionally some Lazio models are full, some are half canvassed. I would imagine their non MTM suits are still a 2 regardless of that. Although some of their full canvassed Lazio suits are 1,000 USD. For the half canvassed suits at a 600 USD price I think it's pretty good though. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Anyway Reddit seems to love SS and they have moderate favorable reviews here.

 

[AdaminPhilly]

For what it's worth, Jort is now discontinued. SS's newest hirarchy is more confusing than it used to be now

Also sorry I don't know how to quote people on this forum without hitting reply, but I was replying to this.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

Also sorry I don't know how to quote people on this forum without hitting reply, but I was replying to this.

you highlight the text you want quoted and when the little shadow box comes up, select “+quote”. Then click on the reply box and select “quote” at the bottom of the box.

 

[AdaminPhilly]

So I see this suit on ebay from Gieves and Hawks. The brand is ranked pretty respectably on the hierarchy for top Italian and British buy, but as a 0 for their regular brand. How do I tell what I am looking at?

This is the part of the guide the confuses me since many brands are listed twice, sometimes without a clear indication of how to differentiate.

Please don't steal this if it is good. Lol.

Mens Black Pinstriped GIEVES & HAWKES Lined Wool Suit 42 Regular | eBay

Blazer is chest 22.5, length 31, shoulder seam to cuff 24 and the Double Pleated and Cuffed pants are waist 35, inseam 30.

www.ebay.com

 

[Anthonio]

Guys, this thread never ceases to confuse me. The list is impossible to find.

At least, it would be if I didn't know where to find it on Reddit.

Here it is, by the way: The list on Google Drive

While I'm here -- the info on Brunello Cucinelli is pretty sparse. Does anybody actually know anything about their suiting? I'm thinking of heading to the sample sale tomorrow...

nice to see the latest progress on this styleforum-working-hierarchical-suit-quality-list, the updates are appreciated.

 

[acconrad]

I love my Isaia but the flannel fabric isn't cutting it for summer weddings. I'm looking for an ultra-versatile "one and done" 4 season suit.

Found solid navy suits by Attolini, Oxxford, Kiton, and Borrelli. I know Attolini and Kiton have the soft shoulder and will probably fit me best. The Oxxford is a steal but it's like a Drop 2 (can you tailor that down to a Drop 8 or will it ruin the suit?). I don't know much about Borrelli suit fits (but I love their shirts).

Recommendations?

 

[RapFan]

I love my Isaia but the flannel fabric isn't cutting it for summer weddings. I'm looking for an ultra-versatile "one and done" 4 season suit.

Found solid navy suits by Attolini, Oxxford, Kiton, and Borrelli. I know Attolini and Kiton have the soft shoulder and will probably fit me best. The Oxxford is a steal but it's like a Drop 2 (can you tailor that down to a Drop 8 or will it ruin the suit?). I don't know much about Borrelli suit fits (but I love their shirts).

Recommendations?

If you have the wallet for it a solid navy from Attolini would be my pick. Kiton is amazing but they're at their best when it's a fun suit. With Attolini you get soft shoulders and light construction but can still pass for a business suit.

 

[acconrad]

If you have the wallet for it a solid navy from Attolini would be my pick. Kiton is amazing but they're at their best when it's a fun suit. With Attolini you get soft shoulders and light construction but can still pass for a business suit.

Thinking about it! Can the boxiness of the Oxxford not make up for its quality? Can it not be altered?

 

[RapFan]

Thinking about it! Can the boxiness of the Oxxford not make up for its quality? Can it not be altered?

6 inches is a lot to make up, even if it's a solid colour suit. Definitely a gamble.

 

[noobanker]

I love my Isaia but the flannel fabric isn't cutting it for summer weddings. I'm looking for an ultra-versatile "one and done" 4 season suit.

Found solid navy suits by Attolini, Oxxford, Kiton, and Borrelli. I know Attolini and Kiton have the soft shoulder and will probably fit me best. The Oxxford is a steal but it's like a Drop 2 (can you tailor that down to a Drop 8 or will it ruin the suit?). I don't know much about Borrelli suit fits (but I love their shirts).

Recommendations?

Never tried Oxxford. The only Oxxfords I've seen available for sale at discounted prices online, gorge line is very low, lapel seems very 90s and that's if you can find anything at all.

I have a few sport coats from Attolini and they're incredible, very flattering cut, very comfortable and modern, yet classic without the excessively trendy design elements.

Kiton seems to vary a lot more in style and their newer sport coats have become very trendy in terms of cut and while there may be some more handwork, cut is far more important to me.

For cheaper and more readily accessible RTW brand that seemingly has a similar cut, I like the Ring Jacket. It's very Attolini-esque perhaps with the highest line offering a good amount of hand stitching. There may be subtle differences in the shoulder construction and finer details, which I'm oblivious to, but I love all the ring jacket suits/sport coats I have, just as I do Attolini's.

 

[Lamschke]

Is Tonello really this bad and not as good as as… Lardini, Boglioli etc.?